Re: draft-sullivan-nomcom-chair-select-00
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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:58:05 -0500
From: Andrew Sullivan <sullivan@isoc.org>
To: Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch>
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Subject: Re: draft-sullivan-nomcom-chair-select-00
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Hi, On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 05:22:52PM +0100, Eliot Lear wrote: >guess the underlying question here is this: do we (really you) have a >problem getting chairs? It's significant work, yes, but that's not my main concern. My main concern is that even though I know a lot of fairly long-time participants in the IETF, my own knowledge of and familiarity with their current interests has waned really fast since I took my present job. And I started with an advantage. My contract will end, and someone new will take my place, and such a person might not come with the advantage I did. So I think it's important to try to set up some kind of regular and well-understood process before such a new President arrives, whenever that happens. But even more important is that "knowledge and familiarity waning" problem. I kinda don't know anything any more, and I would like to hope that there have been changes to the IETF population over the three-and-change years I've been in this job. That's all invisible to me, even though someone who was a newcomer in Montreal in July 2018 could now be an experienced hand at the IETF whose views about the NomCom Chair I probably need when finding candidates. So I'm hoping to build something that will allow for that input. Finally, as a general matter I dislike insider clubs, and the current selection mechanism is basically "Internet Society President picks somehow". That's just _bound_ to create insider bias, so I think something that provides a mechanism by which someone unfamiliar might be introduced to the process is good. None of this is to say that the community shouldn't revise the whole NomCom process to dismiss the Internet Society President altogether, if the community wants that. But I don't want to hold my breath for that day, and this is something I can do without any of those changes being necessaary. Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan President & CEO, Internet Society sullivan@isoc.org +1 416 731 1261
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