Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy
Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Wed, 15 January 2020 22:16 UTC
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 23:16:37 +0100
From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: IAB Chair <iab-chair@iab.org>
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Subject: Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy
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On Wed, Jan 08, 2020 at 03:14:57PM -0800, IAB Chair wrote: [...] > Covered Individuals shall not use the IAB???s resources or decisions as a > means for personal or third-party gain. I really do not know how to judge this. I am thining about the following question to (candidate) IAB members: "Can the work of the IAB that you contribute to impact future financial results of your employer / sponsor ?" If one would answer YES, does that constitute a COI ? If not, then what would be a good reference example for the most minor COI that one should be concerned about ? Thanks Toerless > > Disclosure of Actual or Potential Conflicts > > The IAB requires that all Covered Individuals disclose their main > employment, sponsorship, consulting customer, or other sources of income > when joining the IAB or whenever there are updates. > > In addition, when a topic is discussed at the IAB, the Covered Individuals > are required to promptly disclose if that topic constitutes a perceived or > potential conflict of interest. Once disclosed, Covered Individuals may > recuse from participation in discussions or decisions at their discretion. > > The specific conflicts that may cause a perceived or potential conflict of > interest are matters for individual and IAB judgment, but generally come in > the following forms: > > * > > A personnel decision relates to the Covered Individual, a colleague > that the Covered Individual's works closely with, or a family > member. For the purposes of this policy, a "person working closely > with" is someone working in the same team or project, or a direct > manager or employee of the Covered Individual. And "family" means a > spouse, domestic partner, child, sibling, parent, stepchild, > stepparent, and mother-, father-, son-, daughter-, brother-, or > sister-in-law, and any other person living in the same household, > except tenants and household employees. > > * > > A decision or output from the IAB impacts a contract that the IETF > enters into with a party, and that party relates to the Covered > Individual, a colleague that the Covered Individual's works closely > with, or a family member. > > * > > Activity on the IAB involves discussion and decisions regarding > technical matters, mainly related to IETF activities. As an activity > adjacent to a standardization process, it is often the case that > Covered Individuals will have some (frequently non-financial) stake > in the outcome of discussions or decisions that relate to technical > matters. This policy does not require that Covered Individuals > disclose such conflicts of interest as they relate to technical > matters. However, Covered Individuals need to exercise their > judgment and, in extraordinary cases be willing to disclose > potential or perceived conflicts of interest even as they relate to > technical matters. For example, if a Covered Individual's sponsor > were in the process of entering a new market where there is an > ongoing IAB discussion, then disclosure, or even recusal, might be > appropriate, even if difficult. > > > Disclosure Transparency > > A person's recusal to participate in the discussion of a topic is always > noted in the public IAB minutes. In addition, the IAB will maintain a > repository of all general disclosures of employment and other sponsorship. > It is expected that much of this repository is public, but there can be > situations where some disclosures (such as customers of consultants) are > private. > > > > <https://github.com/jariarkko/alternate-iab-coi-policy/blob/master/coi-policy.md#status> > > > _______________________________________________ > Architecture-discuss mailing list > Architecture-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/architecture-discuss -- --- tte@cs.fau.de
- Draft IAB conflict of interest policy IAB Chair
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Stewart Bryant
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy John C Klensin
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Eric Rescorla
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Stewart Bryant
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Alvaro Retana
- Re: Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Warren Kumari
- Re: Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Stephen Farrell
- Re: Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Richard Barnes
- Re: Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Ben Campbell
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Salz, Rich
- Re: Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Salz, Rich
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Joe Touch
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Eric Rescorla
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Ben Campbell
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Livingood, Jason
- Re: Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Livingood, Jason
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of… Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal)
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Ben Campbell
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Livingood, Jason
- Re: [arch-d] [EXTERNAL] Re: Draft IAB conflict of… Mary Barnes
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Joe Touch
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Bernard Aboba
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Eric Rescorla
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Joe Touch
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Marc Blanchet
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Eliot Lear (elear)
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Pete Resnick
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Stewart Bryant
- Re: Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Cullen Jennings
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Bernard Aboba
- Re: Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Christian Huitema
- Re: Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Brian E Carpenter
- [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Guntur Wiseno Putra
- Re: Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Michael StJohns
- Re: Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Michael StJohns
- Re: Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Joel M. Halpern
- Re: Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Rob Sayre
- RE: Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Roni Even (A)
- Re: Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Eliot Lear (elear)
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Toerless Eckert
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Robert Raszuk
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Randy Bush
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Salz, Rich
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Randy Bush
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Salz, Rich
- Re: Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Jared Mauch
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Toerless Eckert
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Toerless Eckert
- Re: Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Randy Bush
- Re: Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Jay Daley
- ISOC and PIR board analogies (Was Re: Draft IAB c… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: ISOC and PIR board analogies (Was Re: Draft I… Randy Bush
- Re: ISOC and PIR board analogies (Was Re: Draft I… Randy Bush
- Re: ISOC and PIR board analogies (Was Re: Draft I… Jay Daley
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy John C Klensin
- Re: ISOC and PIR board analogies (Was Re: Draft I… John C Klensin
- Re: ISOC and PIR board analogies (Was Re: Draft I… Livingood, Jason