Re: Last Call: <draft-moonesamy-ietf-conduct-3184bis-03.txt> (IETF Guidelines for Conduct) to Best Current Practice

[Brian E Carpenter <[e-mail]>]

Hi,

Some comments.

1) I object to the change in the first sentence of the Introduction:

"The work of the IETF relies on cooperation ..." has become
"The work of the IETF relies on collaboration...".

I really think that "cooperation" is a significantly better word.
I want more than collaborators in the IETF (people who labor with
me). I want a spirit of cooperation. Also, "collaborate" has one very
negative meaning in English.

(Please compare http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cooperate
and http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/collaborate.)

2) In the item "4. Individuals are prepared to contribute to the ongoing
work of the group", I quite understand why some text was considered
objectionable and was deleted. But I think the the following text should
not have been deleted:

"Working Group meetings run on a very limited time
schedule, and are not intended for the education of individuals.
The work of the group will continue on the mailing list, and many
questions would be better expressed on the list in the months that
follow."

I would probably tune the last part so that it reads"

"Working Group meetings run on a very limited time
schedule, and are not intended for the education of individuals.
The work of the group will continue on the mailing list, and
questions can be asked and answered on the list."

3) The Security Considerations say:

"Guidelines about IETF conduct do not affect the security of the
Internet in any way."

I'm not so sure. Try this:

"Guidelines about IETF conduct do not directly affect the security of the
Internet."

(I thought about drafting some text about how misconduct could damage
security, but I think that rat hole can be avoided in this particular
document.)

4) Appendix A: Reporting transgressions of the guidelines

Maybe just add a hint about the ombudsperson?

"At the time of writing, the IETF is putting in place an anti-harassment policy
and an ombudsperson to handle complaints."

   Brian