Re: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infrastucture (RAI) Area
Scott Michel <scooter.phd@gmail.com> Sat, 24 September 2005 07:27 UTC
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From: Scott Michel <scooter.phd@gmail.com>
To: Melinda Shore <mshore@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infrastucture (RAI) Area
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On 9/22/05, Melinda Shore <mshore@cisco.com> wrote: > > On 9/22/05 1:14 AM, "Dave Crocker" <dhc2@dcrocker.net> wrote: > > The term > > "real-time" tends to mean sub-second, and often much faster than that. > > That seems to be the vernacular use, but strictly speaking "real-time" > is about robust assurances of delivery within a constrained time period, > whether that time period is millisecond or multi-minute. In other > words, the focus is on the guarantees, not on really-really-fast. Let me play Devil's Advocate for a second: What wasn't addressed by the previous work done in RSVP and Diffserv that this new area has to be urgently addressed? Are not packet schedulers enough? Or are we going to watch a whole new infrastructure get developed that will be now better than the previous work, with less complexity, and more hope of being deployed outside of DoD programs? Because, frankly, that's the only place I've seen an explicit need for advanced QoS techniques (besides VoIP, and that gets to be really debatable too.) -scooter
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- RE: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infra… john.loughney
- Re: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infra… Pekka Savola
- Re: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infra… grenville armitage
- RE: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infra… Yaakov Stein
- FW: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infra… Markus.Isomaki
- TAWNNY! (Re: FW: Possible new Real-Time Applicati… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: TAWNNY! (Re: FW: Possible new Real-Time Appli… C Wegrzyn
- Re: TAWNNY! (Re: FW: Possible new Real-Time Appli… bill
- Re: TAWNNY! (Re: FW: Possible new Real-Time Appli… Bill Fenner
- RE: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infra… Bill Sommerfeld
- Re: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infra… Dave Crocker
- Re: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infra… Dave Crocker
- Re: TAWNNY! (Re: FW: Possible new Real-Time Appli… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infra… Melinda Shore
- Shifting sands [Re: Possible new Real-Time Applic… Brian E Carpenter
- RE: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infra… Yaakov Stein
- Re: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infra… Dave Crocker
- Re: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infra… Melinda Shore
- Re: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infra… Dave Crocker
- Re: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infra… Scott Michel
- Re: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infra… Pete Resnick
- Re: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infra… Scott W Brim
- Re: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infra… Pete Resnick
- RE: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infra… Yaakov Stein
- RE: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infra… sbrim
- Re: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infra… Adam Roach
- Re: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infra… Richard Shockey