Re: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6
Masataka Ohta <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> Mon, 15 November 2010 09:26 UTC
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Subject: Re: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6
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Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: > NAT traversal should be something that is supported at a higher level of > abstraction than one protocol. And there seem to be moves towards that > support. As there are various kinds of NAT, it is a waste of effort to try to have a universal NAT traversing protocol. Instead, we should define some standard NAT for which simplest NAT traversal is required for widest range of applications. As end to end NAT with complete end to end transparency does not require any NAT traversal for all applications, we are done. > But the idea of trying to starve protocols of features in order to encourage > transition to IPv6 has been tried for the past ten years and utterly failed. So true. Masataka Ohta
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- Re: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6 Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6 Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6 Masataka Ohta
- Re: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6 Jari Arkko
- Re: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6 Masataka Ohta
- Re: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6 Noel Chiappa
- Re: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6 Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6 Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6 Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6 Masataka Ohta
- Re: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6 Martin Rex
- Re: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6 Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6 Masataka Ohta
- Re: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6 Yoav Nir
- Re: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6 Masataka Ohta
- Re: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6 Martin Rex
- Re: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6 Masataka Ohta
- Re: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6 Tadayuki HATTORI
- Re: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6 Martin Rex
- RE: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6 David Harrington
- RE: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6 Noel Chiappa
- Re: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6 Masataka Ohta
- Re: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6 Tadayuki HATTORI
- RE: IESG position on NAT traversal and IPv4/IPv6 Worley, Dale R (Dale)