Re: Internet standardisation remains unilateral

Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> Mon, 21 October 2013 13:31 UTC

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Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 15:30:09 +0200
From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
To: dcrocker@bbiw.net
Subject: Re: Internet standardisation remains unilateral
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On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 09:08:43AM -0400,
 Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> wrote 
 a message of 27 lines which said:

> He invented the datagram...

Some people say it is Leonard Kleinrock. I welcome any precise
references on the history of the datagram, specially if they are
accessible online (whuich is rare for scientific papers of this
time). Anyway, the fact that someone did something great X years ago
(he also wrote the first shell and built Cyclades) does not mean he
cannot troll today.

> I think his slides do miss some essential points, but that it's a
> case of correct numbers producing incorrect recommendations.

Fair summary. His remark about the use of english is a good
example. Is it a problem? Yes? Can anyone see a solution? No (and he
does not suggest one).