Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the home.
SM <sm@resistor.net> Tue, 10 September 2013 16:45 UTC
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 09:44:05 -0700
To: Jim Gettys <jg@freedesktop.org>
From: SM <sm@resistor.net>
Subject: Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the home.
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Hi Jim, At 08:55 10-09-2013, Jim Gettys wrote: >We uncovered two practical problems, both of which need to be solved >to enable full DNSSEC deployment into the home: > >1) DNSSEC needs to have the time within one hour. But these devices >do not have TOY clocks (and arguably, never will, nor even probably >should ever have them). > >So how do you get the time after you power on the device? The usual >answer is "use ntp". Except you can't do a DNS resolve when your >time is incorrect. You have a chicken and egg problem to >resolve/hack around :-(. That problem has been bothering me for a while. There can be a leap of faith at startup to get the correct time. DNSSEC can be done after that. Regards, -sm
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… Russ Housley
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… Joe Abley
- Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the home. Jim Gettys
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… Paul Wouters
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… Joe Abley
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Ted Lemon
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… SM
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… Michael Richardson
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… Tony Finch
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… Joe Abley
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… David Morris
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Evan Hunt
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Dickson, Brian
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Arturo Servin
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Theodore Ts'o
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Theodore Ts'o
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Theodore Ts'o
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… David Morris
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Eliot Lear
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Dickson, Brian
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… robert bownes
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Glen Wiley
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Martin Rex
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Jim Gettys
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Masataka Ohta