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Re: [Ila] [5gangip] PS draft: New Version Notification for draft-hspab-5gangip-atticps-00.txt

Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com> Thu, 01 February 2018 00:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ila] [5gangip] PS draft: New Version Notification for draft-hspab-5gangip-atticps-00.txt
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> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 2:25 PM Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tom, this is why addresses need to be obfuscated. And you can’t do that with address translation/transformation. I’m a fan of ILA, but the IPv6 header must be sent in the clear, and that is problematic for this issue.
> 
> Dino
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> And again, i really have no idea on what problem Tom and Dino are trying solve that they think a mobile operator would want to implement. 

I’m trying to solve for the general case. And if possible, then 5G could benefit regardless if anyone thinks it is needed or not.

> I see Tom and Dino jockeying their solutions, but they are not solutions to problems that network operators have articulated. 

We both are trying to make both solutions better.

> I believe at one point this listed agreed to produce requirements but then quickly decided it was better to have secret group (design team?) write a white paper about  id / loc.  

Note the ila@ietf.org mailing list is copied. 

> IMHO id / loc has zero traction in mobile , it is not present in any of the well publicized “5G” deployments that are currently going on. 

Then you can ignore us. But many of us want to think out loud freely and learn from each other.

> Just $0.02 about the echo chamber we are in. 

You will have to use your email filters then.

Dino

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