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Re: [Ila] [5gangip] PS draft: New Version Notification for draft-hspab-5gangip-atticps-00.txt

Tom Herbert <tom@quantonium.net> Thu, 01 February 2018 17:49 UTC

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From: Tom Herbert <tom@quantonium.net>
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2018 09:49:44 -0800
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Subject: Re: [Ila] [5gangip] PS draft: New Version Notification for draft-hspab-5gangip-atticps-00.txt
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On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
> On Jan 31, 2018, at 2:42 PM, Tom Herbert <tom@quantonium.net> wrote:
>> It's not the addresses that need to be obfuscated, it's the identity
>> of the user that sourced the packet that needs to remain hidden.
>
> Actually, this is among the more common justifications for IPv4/IPv4 NAT that I hear: obfuscation of the network itself.
>
The privacy and security aspects of NAT are strong. This has been
validated by law enforcement's intense dislike of it
(https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/10/18/europol_cgnat/).  If we can
provide the same level of user privacy in IPv6 without resorting to
NAT (and satisfy LI requirements), then that justification to stick
with NAT and IPv4 is eliminated.

> Of course, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v26BAlfWBm8.

Very educational! :-).

Tom

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