Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP
Olivier Bonaventure <olivier.bonaventure@tessares.net> Wed, 19 July 2017 07:41 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP
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Joe, >>> Although I'm not averse to middleboxes as optional optimizations, I find >>> the proposed mechanisms aren't quite optional -- they inject option >>> information into the SYN data. That information would poison a >>> connection to a legacy receiver if (more to the point, when) that info >>> isn't removed by a proxy upstream of the receiver. >> >> This paragraph refers to earlier documents discussed in the MPTCP >> working group. The new design does not inject option information into >> the SYN data. It works like an application layer protocol that sends >> messages >> in the SYN by using the TFO option. There is no risk of poisoning. > > OK, in that case: > - I'm still not averse to middleboxes that accelerate or enhance TCP We agree > - IMO, TCP always needs to be able to fall back (which should be true now) This is not a concern with the proposed design > - but I remain concerned with "injection piggybacking" To which section of the draft are you referring to ? Olivier -- ------------------------------ DISCLAIMER. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
- [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of M… Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Tom Herbert
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Erik Kline
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Tom Herbert
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Tom Herbert
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Tom Herbert
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … mohamed.boucadair