Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP
Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> Tue, 18 July 2017 22:32 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP
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Hi, all, I've noted this before, but to share with other areas: Although I'm not averse to middleboxes as optional optimizations, I find the proposed mechanisms aren't quite optional -- they inject option information into the SYN data. That information would poison a connection to a legacy receiver if (more to the point, when) that info isn't removed by a proxy upstream of the receiver. TCP must be E2E and fall back to legacy endpoints without a reconnection attempt, as required by RFC793. These aren't generic solutions; they're attacks on a TCP connection, IMO. Joe On 7/18/2017 3:22 PM, Olivier Bonaventure wrote: > The working group has discussed this issue several times and today we > have presented a new design that supports the creation of such > functions to convert MPTCP connections into TCP connections and vice > versa. The design was done with MPTCP in mind, but the proposed > solution could be more generic and applied to other use cases than > MPTCP. The draft that describes the new design is available via: > > https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bonaventure-mptcp-converters-01.txt > > > Mirja Kuehlewind suggested to send the document on the int-area and > tsv-area mailing lists to see whether other working groups could be > interested by this approach.
- [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of M… Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Tom Herbert
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Erik Kline
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Tom Herbert
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Tom Herbert
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … Tom Herbert
- Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment … mohamed.boucadair