Re: [iola-conversion-tool] Fwd: [www.ietf.org/rt #45823] Missing messages from the submitter

Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> Mon, 05 March 2012 23:37 UTC

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Hi Jim,

On 2012-03-06 00:20 Jim Schaad said the following:
> Winery.augustcellars.com is my secondary server, I am collecting messages
> from that server - so it must be deciding that you are bad juju for some
> reason.  I guess that will be part of my trip to the winery later this week
> to figure out what spam filter these messages are going to that is not
> catching the rest of my IETF mail.

Ah.  It would most likely be very interesting to hear what you find, in case
it could help us fix any issues with the outgoing messages that make them
likely to be misclassified as spam.


Best regards,

	Henrik


> Jim
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Henrik Levkowetz [mailto:henrik@levkowetz.com]
>> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 3:15 PM
>> To: Jim Schaad
>> Cc: 'Ole Laursen'; 'Russ Housley'; 'Alexa Morris';
> iola-conversion-tool@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [iola-conversion-tool] Fwd: [www.ietf.org/rt #45823] Missing
>> messages from the submitter
>> 
>> Hi Jim,
>> 
>> On 2012-03-05 23:35 Jim Schaad said the following:
>> > Henrik,
>> >
>> > Is there any possibility that an issue could be present because I had
>> > multiple MX records and the primary server was down during that period?
>> 
>> It shouldn't matter, if you've collected messages from the secondary
> server
>> meanwhile.  Otherwise, it definitely could matter.  The mail server log
>> showed these lines for the final delivery of the outgoing
>> messages:
>> 
>>    Mar  2 14:17:20 ietfa postfix/smtp[32486]: 3F10E21F858E:
>> to=<ietf@augustcellars.com>om>,
>> relay=winery.augustcellars.com[206.212.239.129]:25, delay=31,
>> delays=0.04/0/30/0.46, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0
>> <20120302221648.748.41367.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> [InternalId=238]
>> Queued mail for delivery)
>> 
>> and
>> 
>>   Mar  2 14:18:03 ietfa postfix/smtp[505]: 4FE2A21F859A:
>> to=<ietf@augustcellars.com>om>,
>> relay=winery.augustcellars.com[206.212.239.129]:25, delay=31,
>> delays=0/0.01/30/0.39, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0
>> <20120302221732.927.86622.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> [InternalId=241]
>> Queued mail for delivery)
>> 
>> If 'winery.augustcellars.com' is your secondary mail server, then my bet
> is
>> that that's where you'll find the messages :-)
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> 	Henrik
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > Jim
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Henrik Levkowetz [mailto:henrik@levkowetz.com]
>> >> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 7:59 AM
>> >> To: Ole Laursen
>> >> Cc: Russ Housley; Alexa Morris; iola-conversion-tool@ietf.org;
>> >> jimsch@augustcellars.com
>> >> Subject: Re: [iola-conversion-tool] Fwd: [www.ietf.org/rt #45823]
>> >> Missing messages from the submitter
>> >>
>> >> Hi Ole,
>> >>
>> >> On 2012-03-05 16:08 Ole Laursen said:
>> >> > 2012/3/5 Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>om>:
>> >> >>> Alexa: I've tried going through a submission on my local
>> >> >>> development server and sure I didn't get the confirmation email,
>> >> >>> but as far as I can tell from the code, the submitter doesn't get
>> >> >>> a confirmation email on submission of 00 revisions of drafts?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> They should.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ah, wait a second, there's a difference between WG drafts and
>> >> > individual drafts. I do get the confirmation in the latter case.
>> >> > Sorry.
>> >> >
>> >> > My first idea would be checking the mail logs and see if it got
>> >> > lost there. I have a dump of the database, and it looks like it
>> >> > went down the right branch of the code, saved the submitter email
>> >> > as ietf@augustcellars.com and then went into the email sending code.
>> >> > Henrik, can you check that?
>> >>
>> >> Just did that, and the result is that they definitely were handed
>> >> over to
>> > the
>> >> mail server, and as far as I can tell also went out to the submitters'
>> > mail server
>> >> for delivery.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >>
>> >> 	Henrik
>> >
>> >
>> >
> 
>