RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG termination
Michael Krause <krause@cup.hp.com> Tue, 30 August 2005 16:37 UTC
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Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 18:41:03 -0700
To: Yaron Haviv <yaronh@voltaire.com>, ipoverib@ietf.org
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Subject: RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG termination
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At 03:29 PM 8/29/2005, Yaron Haviv wrote: >IB availability is defined today and one can migrate between ports and >given the use of UD, can easily migrate between HCA either completely or >relatively transparent to the network stack using the IB methods or the >same IP address update using the same methods deployed today on all OS >offerings. In the end, it really is an implementation issue and fixing >the OpenSM implementations not an IETF issue to resolve any deficiencies. > >Mike > ><Yaron> >Mike, the solution that may work over IB is sending gratuitous ARPs >This doesn't cover all the cases, e.g. how would VRRP or MAC faking work >over IB ? > >By nature an IPoIB endpoint also contains QPs, so even theoretically an SM >cannot deal with the problem >If we want to address interoperability between different vendors I believe >we need to address it through standardization > >If you believe there is a solution that addresses my concerns and can be >done in a standard/interoperable way please let me know I believe this is an OpenIB / OpenSM or IBTA problem space to solve not the IETF. Mike > >Yaron > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ipoverib-bounces@ietf.org [ mailto:ipoverib-bounces@ietf.org] On > > Behalf Of H.K. Jerry Chu > > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 1:38 PM > > To: ipoverib@ietf.org > > Cc: margaret@thingmagic.com; Bill_Strahm@McAfee.com > > Subject: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG termination > > > > Hi folks, > > > > With the DHCP over IB draft in IESG's hand, we are done with all > > the basic IPoIB work, including the architecture (informational), > > encapsulation, and DHCP (standard tracked). Now seems a good time > > to decide the next step for the WG. > > > > The work on IPoIB connected mode and most of the MIB drafts started > > a while back (2003/2002). Over the years the interest/participation > > level on these work has not been high, and now the work seems to drag > > on indefinitely. The AD has recently questioned whether the remaining > > work should be continued or not. > > > > The following is a quick update on their status: > > > > 1. IPoIB connected mode > > draft-ietf-ipoib-connected-mode-00.txt > > updated recently > > > > 2. MIB drafts > > IPoIB Textual Conventions MIB > > draft-ietf-ipoib-ibmib-tc-mib-06.txt > > > > IPoIB InfiniBand Interfaces MIB > > draft-ietf-ipoib-ibif-mib-07.txt > > > > IPoIB subnet Management Agent MIB > > draft-ietf-ipoib-subnet-mgmt-agent-mib-07.txt > > > > IPoIB Channel Adapter MIB > > draft-ietf-ipoib-channel-adapter-mib-06.txt > > > > IPoIB Baseboard Management Agent MIB > > draft-ietf-ipoib-baseboard-mgmt-agent-mib-02.txt > > > > IPoIB performance Management Agent MIB > > draft-ietf-ipoib-perf-mgmt-agent-mib-03.txt > > > > The above 6 MIB drafts have gone through the > > MIB doctor (Randy Presuhn) review late 2003 and > > updated accordingly. All the updated drafts expired > > in April 2005. > > > > 3. IPoIB Subnet Manager MIB > > draft-ietf-ipoib-subnet-manager-mib-00.txt > > > > Submitted 3/2004 but has expired too. > > > > If you want to see any of the above work continue in the WG, > > AND is willing to participate to get the work completed, please > > speak up NOW! You will have until Sep. 20 to do so. After > > that unless there is evidence a "sufficient" interest level > > on any of the work above still exists, the WG will be disbanded > > (or become dormant in order to handle the on-going work on > > the standard-tracked RFCs) and the unfinished work abandoned. > > > > Note that authors of the above drafts may choose to resubmit > > their drafts as individual submissions if they want to continue > > to pursue their work at IETF. > > > > Thank you! > > > > Jerry & Bill > > > > IPoIB co-chairs > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > IPoverIB mailing list > > IPoverIB@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipoverib > >_______________________________________________ >IPoverIB mailing list >IPoverIB@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipoverib
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- [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG termination H.K. Jerry Chu
- Re: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Michael Krause
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Yaron Haviv
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… H.K. Jerry Chu
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Michael Krause
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Yaron Haviv
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Yaron Haviv
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Carl Hensler
- Re: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Vivek Kashyap
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Vivek Kashyap
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Yaron Haviv
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Dror Goldenberg
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Michael Krause
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Michael Krause
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Yaron Haviv
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Bernard King-Smith
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Michael Krause
- Re: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Vivek Kashyap
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… H.K. Jerry Chu
- Re: FW: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG term… Eitan Zahavi
- Re: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Roland Dreier
- Re: FW: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG term… H.K. Jerry Chu
- RE: FW: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG term… Sean Harnedy
- RE: FW: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG term… H.K. Jerry Chu
- RE: FW: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG term… bill
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Michael Krause
- Re: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Michael Krause
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Bernard King-Smith
- Re: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Vivek Kashyap
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Vivek Kashyap
- Why is MTU an issue? (RE: [Ipoverib] Please read … Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Ecosystems cost of additional specs (RE: [Ipoveri… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: Why is MTU an issue? (RE: [Ipoverib] Please r… Mark Townsley
- Re: FW: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG term… Eitan Zahavi
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Dror Goldenberg
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Dror Goldenberg
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Michael Krause
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Michael Krause
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Dror Goldenberg
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Michael Krause