RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG termination
Carl Hensler <Carl.Hensler@eng.sun.com> Tue, 30 August 2005 04:42 UTC
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From: Carl Hensler <Carl.Hensler@eng.sun.com>
Subject: RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG termination
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The IETF process is so unwieldy that I think we should just let the WG terminate. I think further IB standardization should take place in IBTA or OpenIB, where people actually care about IB. Carl > Subject: RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG termination > Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 21:02:51 +0300 > Thread-Topic: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG termination > From: "Yaron Haviv" <yaronh@voltaire.com> > To: "H.K. Jerry Chu" <Jerry.Chu@eng.sun.com>, <ipoverib@ietf.org> > X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) > X-Scan-Signature: cf3becbbd6d1a45acbe2ffd4ab88bdc2 > Cc: margaret@thingmagic.com, Bill_Strahm@McAfee.com > List-Id: IP over InfiniBand WG Discussion List <ipoverib.ietf.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipoverib>, <mailto:ipoverib-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> > List-Post: <mailto:ipoverib@ietf.org> > List-Help: <mailto:ipoverib-request@ietf.org?subject=help> > List-Subscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipoverib>, <mailto:ipoverib-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> > > Jerry, > > I believe there is one issue that deserves further attention > Which is delivering highly available IPoIB solutions > > In traditional GbE MAC faking techniques can be used to fail over > between hosts or between routers (e.g. VRRP) > Unfortunately this is not applicable to IPoIB (given the IB routing & SA > structure) > > Going into more commercial/enterprise environments this becomes a real > necessity, today some vendors (including us) use proprietary solutions > however a standard approach is required > > I proposed few directions in the pass to address the problem, e.g. using > UNARP (like Sonet does) or using the SA/SM > > Yaron > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ipoverib-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ipoverib-bounces@ietf.org] On > > Behalf Of H.K. Jerry Chu > > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 1:38 PM > > To: ipoverib@ietf.org > > Cc: margaret@thingmagic.com; Bill_Strahm@McAfee.com > > Subject: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG termination > > > > Hi folks, > > > > With the DHCP over IB draft in IESG's hand, we are done with all > > the basic IPoIB work, including the architecture (informational), > > encapsulation, and DHCP (standard tracked). Now seems a good time > > to decide the next step for the WG. > > > > The work on IPoIB connected mode and most of the MIB drafts started > > a while back (2003/2002). Over the years the interest/participation > > level on these work has not been high, and now the work seems to drag > > on indefinitely. The AD has recently questioned whether the remaining > > work should be continued or not. > > > > The following is a quick update on their status: > > > > 1. IPoIB connected mode > > draft-ietf-ipoib-connected-mode-00.txt > > updated recently > > > > 2. MIB drafts > > IPoIB Textual Conventions MIB > > draft-ietf-ipoib-ibmib-tc-mib-06.txt > > > > IPoIB InfiniBand Interfaces MIB > > draft-ietf-ipoib-ibif-mib-07.txt > > > > IPoIB subnet Management Agent MIB > > draft-ietf-ipoib-subnet-mgmt-agent-mib-07.txt > > > > IPoIB Channel Adapter MIB > > draft-ietf-ipoib-channel-adapter-mib-06.txt > > > > IPoIB Baseboard Management Agent MIB > > draft-ietf-ipoib-baseboard-mgmt-agent-mib-02.txt > > > > IPoIB performance Management Agent MIB > > draft-ietf-ipoib-perf-mgmt-agent-mib-03.txt > > > > The above 6 MIB drafts have gone through the > > MIB doctor (Randy Presuhn) review late 2003 and > > updated accordingly. All the updated drafts expired > > in April 2005. > > > > 3. IPoIB Subnet Manager MIB > > draft-ietf-ipoib-subnet-manager-mib-00.txt > > > > Submitted 3/2004 but has expired too. > > > > If you want to see any of the above work continue in the WG, > > AND is willing to participate to get the work completed, please > > speak up NOW! You will have until Sep. 20 to do so. After > > that unless there is evidence a "sufficient" interest level > > on any of the work above still exists, the WG will be disbanded > > (or become dormant in order to handle the on-going work on > > the standard-tracked RFCs) and the unfinished work abandoned. > > > > Note that authors of the above drafts may choose to resubmit > > their drafts as individual submissions if they want to continue > > to pursue their work at IETF. > > > > Thank you! > > > > Jerry & Bill > > > > IPoIB co-chairs > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > IPoverIB mailing list > > IPoverIB@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipoverib > > _______________________________________________ > IPoverIB mailing list > IPoverIB@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipoverib > _______________________________________________ IPoverIB mailing list IPoverIB@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipoverib
- [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG termination H.K. Jerry Chu
- Re: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Michael Krause
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Yaron Haviv
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… H.K. Jerry Chu
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Michael Krause
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Yaron Haviv
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Yaron Haviv
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Carl Hensler
- Re: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Vivek Kashyap
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Vivek Kashyap
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Yaron Haviv
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Dror Goldenberg
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Michael Krause
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Michael Krause
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Yaron Haviv
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Bernard King-Smith
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Michael Krause
- Re: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Vivek Kashyap
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… H.K. Jerry Chu
- Re: FW: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG term… Eitan Zahavi
- Re: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Roland Dreier
- Re: FW: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG term… H.K. Jerry Chu
- RE: FW: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG term… Sean Harnedy
- RE: FW: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG term… H.K. Jerry Chu
- RE: FW: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG term… bill
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Michael Krause
- Re: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Michael Krause
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Bernard King-Smith
- Re: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Vivek Kashyap
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Vivek Kashyap
- Why is MTU an issue? (RE: [Ipoverib] Please read … Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Ecosystems cost of additional specs (RE: [Ipoveri… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: Why is MTU an issue? (RE: [Ipoverib] Please r… Mark Townsley
- Re: FW: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG term… Eitan Zahavi
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Dror Goldenberg
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Dror Goldenberg
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Michael Krause
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Michael Krause
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Dror Goldenberg
- RE: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG terminat… Michael Krause