Re: Issue found in RFC 3667 text

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 fred@cisco.com wrote:
>    "By submitting this Internet-Draft, I certify that any applicable
>     patent or other IPR claims of which I am aware have been disclosed,
>     and any of which I become aware will be disclosed, in accordance
>     with RFC 3668."
> 
> I cannot file an IPR notice without a posted draft to file it
> concerning, and this statement says that at the time I post it I have
> already revealed all IPR known to me. In communication protocol design,
> we refer to this as a "race condition."

This is probably more bug in our ipr notifications process than in the 
text itself.

If you send in an IPR notice relating to draft-surname-foo-00.txt,
you've fulfilled your obligations when you send in
draft-surname-foo-00.txt to Internet-Drafts@ietf.org.  I don't think
anything in the policy requires that you send in your internet-draft
only after the IPR notice has been filed at the web site, right?

In other words, you can send the notice at 13:00:00, and send the
draft in to internet-drafts@ at 13:00:01, and you'd fulfill your
obligation to the letter.

The main point appears to be whether the IETF executive director
requires that the draft has been published before accepting an IPR
note about a draft; IMHO, this should not be required, or one should
be able to say "to-be-published draft-surname-foo".

-- 
Pekka Savola                 "You each name yourselves king, yet the
Netcore Oy                    kingdom bleeds."
Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings

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