Re: [IPsec] Comments on proposed draft-ietf-ipsecme-ad-vpn-problem-02
Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Sun, 16 December 2012 17:12 UTC
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Cc: "vishwas.manral@hp.com" <vishwas.manral@hp.com>, ipsec@ietf.org, Stephen Hanna <shanna@juniper.net>, Brian Weis <bew@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [IPsec] Comments on proposed draft-ietf-ipsecme-ad-vpn-problem-02
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Vishwas, This sounds reasonable to me. Much thanks! Lou On 12/14/2012 5:09 PM, Vishwas Manral wrote: > Hi Brian/ Lou, > > So as a resolution for this, the only change required would be replacing > the requirement to: > > There is also the case when L3VPNs operate over IPsec Tunnels, for > example Provider Edge (PE) based VPN's. An ADVPN MUST support L3VPN as > an application protected by the IPsec Tunnels. > > I can do that now and post the new version of the draft across. > > Thanks, > Vishwas > ===================================================== > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Brian Weis <bew@cisco.com > <mailto:bew@cisco.com>> wrote: > > Hi Lou, > > On Dec 14, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net > <mailto:lberger@labn.net>> wrote: > > > Brian, > > Opps, should have replied to this message (and not the prior). > > > > My previous mail basically said the new requirement is placed on the > > ADVPN solution, not a particular implementation. I think it's > important > > to ensure that the overall solution provides for Requirement 14, > and I'm > > not sure how this can be done without a requirement. > > If I understand correctly, these requirements are intending to be > relevant to "ADVPN solutions" that don't include network > infrastructure. It doesn't make sense to me to make a "ADVPN > solution" implemented on PCs and comprised exclusively of PCs > subject to this as a general requirement. > > All other MUST requirements in Section 4 seem to apply equally to > all use cases. > > > > > See below for additional specific responses. > > [snip] > > >> Lou, would something like the following text in Section 2.2 be a > >> satisfactory replacement for Requirement 14? > >> > >> There is also the case when L3VPNs operate over IPsec Tunnels, > >> for example Provider Edge (PE) based VPN's. An AD VPN must > >> support L3VPN as an application protected by the IPsec > >> Tunnels. > > > > it he must was a MUST, sure. > > I'd happily support a MUST here. There aren't any other MUSTs > outside of Section 4, but I don't know why. > > Thanks, > Brian > > > > > Lou > > > > > _______________________________________________ > IPsec mailing list > IPsec@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipsec >
- [IPsec] Comments on proposed draft-ietf-ipsecme-a… Brian Weis
- Re: [IPsec] Comments on proposed draft-ietf-ipsec… Vishwas Manral
- Re: [IPsec] Comments on proposed draft-ietf-ipsec… Brian Weis
- Re: [IPsec] Comments on proposed draft-ietf-ipsec… Lou Berger
- Re: [IPsec] Comments on proposed draft-ietf-ipsec… Lou Berger
- Re: [IPsec] Comments on proposed draft-ietf-ipsec… Brian Weis
- Re: [IPsec] Comments on proposed draft-ietf-ipsec… Vishwas Manral
- Re: [IPsec] Comments on proposed draft-ietf-ipsec… Lou Berger
- Re: [IPsec] Comments on proposed draft-ietf-ipsec… Lou Berger
- Re: [IPsec] Comments on proposed draft-ietf-ipsec… Brian Weis
- Re: [IPsec] Comments on proposed draft-ietf-ipsec… Vishwas Manral
- Re: [IPsec] Comments on proposed draft-ietf-ipsec… Lou Berger