Re: [IPsec] IPsec Digest, Vol 123, Issue 21

Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> Mon, 18 August 2014 17:52 UTC

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On Mon, 18 Aug 2014, Les Leposo wrote:

>>> If course if the device is not really sleeping, i.e. you just blank
>>> the screen, and are still able to receive and send packets, then there
>>> is no point of tearing down the IKE SA.
>>
>> could someone at apple please relay this! This is stupidly draining my
>> battery :P
> do you know if it is an IKE SA rekey and if so, who is actually initiating it?

the entire ipsec system is brought down/up, eg racoon is completely
killed and restarted all the time.

Paul