Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Mon, 02 March 2020 19:37 UTC

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Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming
To: Martin Vigoureux <martin.vigoureux@nokia.com>, spring@ietf.org
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Martin,

On 03-Mar-20 07:53, Martin Vigoureux wrote:
> WG,
> 
> as I had indicated in a previous message I am the one evaluating 
> consensus for this WG LC.
> 
> I have carefully read the discussions on the list. I acknowledge that 
> disagreements were expressed regarding what a particular piece of text 
> of RFC 8200 says, and on which this document builds to propose an 
> optional capability. Since RFC 8200 is not a product of the SPRING WG, I 
> have paid specific attention to the messages ([1], [2], and [3]) sent by 
> the responsible AD of 6MAN and of RFC8200.
> 
> My overall conclusion is that there is support and rough consensus to 
> move this document to the next stage.

I am amazed by this statement, coming before we have had time to digest the changes
in draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-11. I think it's highly premature.

   Brian

> 
> Bruno will handle the immediate next steps.
> 
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
> [1] 
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/67ZG76XRezPXilsP3x339rGpcso/
> [2] 
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/plidxjZFBnd4_mEzGsLC76FZmQ0/
> [3] 
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/uBYpxPyyBY6bb86Y2iCh3jSIKBc/
> 
> Le 2019-12-05 à 18:15, bruno.decraene@orange.com a écrit :
>> Hello SPRING,
>>
>> This email starts a two weeks Working Group Last Call on 
>> draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming [1].
>>
>> Please read this document if you haven't read the most recent version, 
>> and send your comments to the SPRING WG list, no later than December 20.
>>
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>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Bruno
>>
>> [1] 
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-05
>>
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