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"Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" <pcamaril@cisco.com> Wed, 04 March 2020 12:17 UTC

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From: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" <pcamaril@cisco.com>
To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>, Martin Vigoureux <martin.vigoureux@nokia.com>, "spring@ietf.org" <spring@ietf.org>
CC: "6man@ietf.org" <6man@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming <draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming
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Andrew,

Inline. PC1.

Regards,
Pablo.

From: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>
Date: Monday, 2 March 2020 at 20:56
To: Martin Vigoureux <martin.vigoureux@nokia.com>, "spring@ietf.org" <spring@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming
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Resent date: Monday, 2 March 2020 at 20:56

I am completely stunned by this.

The question regarding RFC8200 is still unaddressed.
PC1: PSP complies with RFC8200.
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/6ZNyPMuZaaP9amVRXQdX9uRMbVk/
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/pGS5O53VTDSt2tpc7mm3FVVd0Xk/
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/i0faTfqB-NduzI2VyMyQ6R60dQw/
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/kV6By4pnvbURdU1O7khwPbk_saM/
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/plidxjZFBnd4_mEzGsLC76FZmQ0/
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/67ZG76XRezPXilsP3x339rGpcso/
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/C20J-h835TJYHH2Q4KCHaS_lmek/
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/65GgH7fY3_TDEbE7dNXwSz64l58/

The promises to deliver an assessment of IP Space burn as per what is on video from the montreal meeting – was not delivered on or addressed
PC1: Authors do not recall such a promise. Can you please point me at either a) an email URL; b) SPRING WG meeting minutes; c) SPRING WG meeting recording (with precise minute and seconds) where such promise happened?

PC1: Also, I do not understand the issue or what “IP Space burn” you talk about.
Please see this: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/34s0MNMsXe7lTYJr1jw-xBpoRp0/
Was this your question?

The issues around the potentially problems in relation to rfc7112 – have never been addressed or commented on.
PC1: RFC7112 considerations apply to all extension headers including SRH. I do not understand the relevance of it with Network Programming draft.

And – there are other issues which will be raised within the appeal(s) that are now coming – that’s just what comes to mind.

Further to this – how consensus can be declared on a document that was changed 2 hours before the declaration – with the changes directly relating to the issue at question – before anyone had had a chance to digest or comment on those changes?  How can there be consensus on something that half the world has not had a chance to read because time zones alone declare that they are asleep!

Absolutely amazing

Andrew

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