Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming
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From: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>
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Thanks Pablo – mistake om my part – and for this I apologise. So just to confirm – can you confirm that with that text removed – you seen no issues using the additional EH’s as currently defined by other RFC’s in conjunction with this technology? I ask this because considering that statement in the draft – I’d like some confirmation that this has been considered, and it is not just a removal of a piece of text Thanks Andrew From: spring <spring-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" <pcamaril@cisco.com> Date: Monday, 9 December 2019 at 18:20 To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>, "li_zhenqiang@hotmail.com" <li_zhenqiang@hotmail.com>, "bruno.decraene@orange.com" <bruno.decraene@orange.com>, "spring@ietf.org" <spring@ietf.org> Cc: "6man@ietf.org" <6man@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming <draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming Andrew, You seem to be reading an outdated version of the document. That text (and the related restrictions) have been removed since version -02. Please read the revision that is being last-called (-05) and let me know whether you have any comment. Thanks, Pablo. From: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com> Date: Friday, 6 December 2019 at 09:16 To: "li_zhenqiang@hotmail.com" <li_zhenqiang@hotmail.com>, "bruno.decraene@orange.com" <bruno.decraene@orange.com>, "spring@ietf.org" <spring@ietf.org> Cc: "6man@ietf.org" <6man@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming <draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org> Subject: RE: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming Resent from: <alias-bounces@ietf.org> Resent to: <cf@cisco.com>, <pcamaril@cisco.com>, <john@leddy.net>, <daniel.voyer@bell.ca>, <satoru.matsushima@g.softbank.co.jp>, <lizhenbin@huawei.com> Resent date: Friday, 6 December 2019 at 09:16 In addition to the below, In Section 2: In this version of the document, we assume that there are no other extension headers than the SRH. These will be lifted in future versions of the document. If the document is going to last call – what future versions and are plans to lift these restrictions going to come to fruition before this goes to last call or in separate rfc’s that update this document? This is of concern because it assumes that there is no hop-by-hop option header, no fragment header, no ESP header, no AH header, no MH header etc etc. Effectively making the use of this incompatible with things explicitly defined in section 4 of RFC8200, and which may run foul of the working group charter which states that SPRING should be avoiding making changes which define things incompatible with existing deployments. Thanks Andrew From: spring <spring-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of li_zhenqiang@hotmail.com Sent: Friday, 6 December 2019 04:15 To: bruno.decraene@orange.com; spring@ietf.org Cc: 6man@ietf.org; draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming <draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming Hello Bruno and all, I don't think the issues discussed again and again in the earlier iterations have been addressed in this version to be WGLCed. Thanks for Durren's recap as follows. [2019-09-06] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/7zMgIwEY9AipZCCGO9KnT2CGH3o<https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/7zMgIwEY9AipZCCGO9KnT2CGH3o> [2019-09-27] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/4_Slu3kkHwduZZPFJJmRUkmoTVo<https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/4_Slu3kkHwduZZPFJJmRUkmoTVo> [2019-10-14] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/u536YH4tv7kKRq_b9_x9gBYpO9c<https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/u536YH4tv7kKRq_b9_x9gBYpO9c> [2019-10-21] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/4pikRli_HSECun9AbwfpmOF5KLI<https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/4pikRli_HSECun9AbwfpmOF5KLI> [2019-12-04] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/oDWLbRDqKCaF5Xa-QvKY6mk_D5E<https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/oDWLbRDqKCaF5Xa-QvKY6mk_D5E> And Ron's recap as follows. - https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/MQLQNTzdkfHNbpwP99FV8UqUofY<https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/MQLQNTzdkfHNbpwP99FV8UqUofY> - https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/trugWEW3n7Ubz7oayYwo6Qe_lGg<https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/trugWEW3n7Ubz7oayYwo6Qe_lGg> - https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/wCcVWXqbjwZW9-pJmYgZ1gC8Xrk<https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/wCcVWXqbjwZW9-pJmYgZ1gC8Xrk> - https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/oDWLbRDqKCaF5Xa-QvKY6mk_D5E<https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/oDWLbRDqKCaF5Xa-QvKY6mk_D5E> Best Regards, Zhenqiang Li ________________________________ li_zhenqiang@hotmail.com<mailto:li_zhenqiang@hotmail.com> From: bruno.decraene@orange.com<mailto:bruno.decraene@orange.com> Date: 2019-12-06 01:15 To: 'SPRING WG List'<mailto:spring@ietf.org> CC: 6man@ietf.org<mailto:6man@ietf.org>; draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming<mailto:draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org> Subject: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming Hello SPRING, This email starts a two weeks Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming [1]. Please read this document if you haven't read the most recent version, and send your comments to the SPRING WG list, no later than December 20. You may copy the 6MAN WG for IPv6 related comment, but consider not duplicating emails on the 6MAN mailing list for the comments which are only spring specifics. If you are raising a point which you expect will be specifically debated on the mailing list, consider using a specific email/thread for this point. This may help avoiding that the thread become specific to this point and that other points get forgotten (or that the thread get converted into parallel independent discussions) Thank you, Bruno [1] https://tools.ietf..org/html/draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-05<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-05> _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. 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- WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming bruno.decraene
- RE: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-program… Ron Bonica
- Re: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-program… li_zhenqiang@hotmail.com
- RE: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Andrew Alston
- Re: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-program… Sander Steffann
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Fernando Gont
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Fernando Gont
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Andrew Alston
- Re: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-program… Fernando Gont
- Re: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-program… Warren Kumari
- RE: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-program… bruno.decraene
- RE: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-program… bruno.decraene
- Re: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-program… Fernando Gont
- Re: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-program… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-program… Warren Kumari
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Robert Raszuk
- RE: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
- Re: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-program… Tom Herbert
- Re: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-program… jmh.direct@joelhalpern.com
- Re: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-program… Fernando Gont
- Re: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-program… Fernando Gont
- RE: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-program… bruno.decraene
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
- Re: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-program… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Sander Steffann
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Fernando Gont
- Fwd: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-netwo… Gyan Mishra
- RE: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… bruno.decraene
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Andrew Alston
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Sander Steffann
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Sander Steffann
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Fernando Gont
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Fernando Gont
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Mark Smith
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Mark Smith
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… S Moonesamy
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Fernando Gont
- RE: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… bruno.decraene
- RE: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… bruno.decraene
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Sander Steffann
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Fernando Gont
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Warren Kumari
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… S Moonesamy
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
- RE: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Fernando Gont
- RE: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Andrew Alston
- Who is the design ultimate authority over IPv6? (… Mark Smith
- Re: Who is the design ultimate authority over IPv… otroan
- RE: Who is the design ultimate authority over IPv… James Guichard
- Re: Who is the design ultimate authority over IPv… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Who is the design ultimate authority over IPv… Tom Herbert
- Re: Who is the design ultimate authority over IPv… otroan
- Re: Who is the design ultimate authority over IPv… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Who is the design ultimate authority over IPv… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: Who is the design ultimate authority over IPv… Mark Smith
- Re: Who is the design ultimate authority over IPv… Mark Smith
- Re: Who is the design ultimate authority over IPv… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: Who is the design ultimate authority over IPv… Tom Herbert
- Re: Who is the design ultimate authority over IPv… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: Who is the design ultimate authority over IPv… Mark Smith
- Re: Who is the design ultimate authority over IPv… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Who is the design ultimate authority over IPv… Fernando Gont
- Re: Who is the design ultimate authority over IPv… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Who is the design ultimate authority over IPv… Andrew Alston
- Re: Who is the design ultimate authority over IPv… S Moonesamy
- Re: Who is the design ultimate authority over IPv… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: Who is the design ultimate authority over IPv… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
- RE: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Andrew Alston
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
- RE: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Andrew Alston
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
- RE: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… bruno.decraene
- RE: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Andrew Alston
- RE: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Sander Steffann
- RE: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Sander Steffann
- RE: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
- Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Sander Steffann
- RE: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-networ… Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)