Re: Next steps for rfc6874bis

Kerry Lynn <kerlyn@ieee.org> Thu, 12 August 2021 20:42 UTC

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From: Kerry Lynn <kerlyn@ieee.org>
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 16:41:56 -0400
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Subject: Re: Next steps for rfc6874bis
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
Cc: Kerry Lynn <kerlyn=40ieee.org@dmarc.ietf.org>, 6man <ipv6@ietf.org>
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On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 2:13 PM Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
wrote:

>
> Kerry Lynn <kerlyn=40ieee.org@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>     > If I could add my $0.02 (even though I'm not current on all the
>     > discussions and details): - I believe http://[fe80::%eth0] _used to
>     > work_ in Mozilla browsers; we're talking maybe early 2000s. The
>
> I concur. It did work.
> In the days when it was just a location bar, and not a search bar.
> I'm told that it's the combinatorics that is part of the challenge.
>

That sounds like the sort of point you'd raise iff you really didn't want to
support ZoneIDs, period. I think we can all agree that any string that
begins with "http://[<stuff>]" is definitely a location. Hence, we should
maybe do some probing to find out what the real objection(s) may be.

Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com> wrote:
> For user friendly end user access to device web GUIs over link-local
> addresses, the devices announcing themselves via MDNS would be better.
> I have a laser printer that already uses MDNS to announce its IPv6
> address.

You are preaching to the choir, but even Apple has ripped Bonjour
support out of Safari. And then there's the IoT crowd who might argue
that mDNS is too costly to implement (but Apple is working to fix that).

I think, at the end of the day, we're looking for the path of least
resistance to a solution that is as useful and ubiquitous as today's
"http://192.168.1.1".

Cheers, Kerry