RE: ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.txt]
"Hemant Singh (shemant)" <shemant@cisco.com> Sat, 17 March 2012 01:37 UTC
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Subject: RE: ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.txt]
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From: "Hemant Singh (shemant)" <shemant@cisco.com>
To: Arifumi Matsumoto <a@arifumi.net>, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Arifumi, -----Original Message----- From: ipv6-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Arifumi Matsumoto Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:30 PM To: Brian E Carpenter Cc: ipv6@ietf.org; Brian Haberman; Bob Hinden; Dave Thaler Subject: Re: ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.txt] >ULA-to-ULA will not be preferred, because ULAs are assigned lower >precedence value in the policy table than those of IPv4 and IPv6 >global addresses. I certainly understand if a host has an IPv4 and a ULA assigned, the policy table prefers the IPv4 over the ULA otherwise Internet connectivity for the host breaks down. Likewise if the host has an IPv6 global and a ULA (which is also globally scoped), the IPv6 global is preferred or Internet connectivity breaks down. However, the issue that Brian raised needs some thought. The host has an IPv4, IPv6 global, and a ULA address. What if the packet destination is a ULA for local communication, so why not use a longest-prefix match and use a ULA source? How does a longest-prefix match relate to the policy table? Do we have a mode where the policy table is the only entity used for source address selection (SAS)? If yes, then how does the ULA to ULA communication above work? Best back, Hemant
- 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise… Brian Haberman
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Arifumi Matsumoto
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Brian E Carpenter
- RE: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Dave Thaler
- RE: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Dave Thaler
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Chris Grundemann
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Brian Haberman
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Roger Jørgensen
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Brian Haberman
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Roger Jørgensen
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Chris Grundemann
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Roger Jørgensen
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Tim Chown
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Chris Grundemann
- -06 candidate Arifumi Matsumoto
- Re: -06 candidate Mark Andrews
- Re: -06 candidate Arifumi Matsumoto
- Re: -06 candidate Brian E Carpenter
- Re: -06 candidate Mark Andrews
- ULA macro in the policy table Re: -06 candidate Arifumi Matsumoto
- Re: ULA macro in the policy table Re: -06 candida… Mark Andrews
- Re: ULA macro in the policy table Re: -06 candida… Arifumi Matsumoto
- Re: ULA macro in the policy table Re: -06 candida… Mark Andrews
- RE: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Dave Thaler
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Brian E Carpenter
- RE: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Dave Thaler
- RE: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Dave Thaler
- RE: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Dave Thaler
- RE: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Dave Thaler
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Arifumi Matsumoto
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Arifumi Matsumoto
- ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.txt] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Tim Chown
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-re… Tim Chown
- Re: ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.… Arifumi Matsumoto
- RE: ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.… Dave Thaler
- Re: ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.… Arifumi Matsumoto
- Re: ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.… Mark Andrews
- RE: ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.… Dave Thaler
- Re: ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.… Arifumi Matsumoto
- Re: ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.… Mark Andrews
- RE: ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.… Brian E Carpenter
- RE: ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.… Dave Thaler
- Re: ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.… Kerry Lynn
- Re: ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.… Arifumi Matsumoto
- RE: ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.… Marc Lampo
- Re: IPv6 zone index was Re: ULA scope [draft-ietf… Arifumi Matsumoto
- Re: ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.… Mark Andrews
- RE: ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.… Marc Lampo
- Re: ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.… Mark Andrews
- Re: ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.… Mark Andrews
- Re: Re: [homenet] ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3… Ray Hunter
- RE: ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.… Marc Lampo
- RE: [homenet] ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-… Anders Brandt
- Re: ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.… Mark Andrews
- Re: [homenet] ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-… Brian E Carpenter
- RE: [homenet] ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-… Anders Brandt
- Re: [homenet] ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-… Tim Chown
- Re: [homenet] ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-… Don Sturek
- IPv6 zone index was Re: ULA scope [draft-ietf-6ma… t.petch
- RE: [homenet] ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-… Anders Brandt
- RE: [homenet] ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-… Anders Brandt
- Re: IPv6 zone index was Re: ULA scope [draft-ietf… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [homenet] ULA scope [draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-… Brian E Carpenter