Re: NAT64 in RA, draft-ietf-6man-ra-pref64

Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com> Tue, 02 July 2019 00:48 UTC

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From: Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2019 10:47:49 +1000
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Subject: Re: NAT64 in RA, draft-ietf-6man-ra-pref64
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On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 10:29 AM Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 30, 2019, at 8:06 PM, Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com> wrote:
> > First I think we need to clarify what  'IPv6-only' means.
>
> To my mind, that is mostly complex because people make it complex, or because we allow them to.
>
> Imagine I have two hosts, each of which can only communicate using IPv6. They only have IPv6 addresses, and they possibly only have IPv6 stacks, but they don't have anything else. If they can communicate in a domain, from their perspective it is a domain that will support end to end IPv6 communication. If they have to do something in addition, the domain doesn't work for IPv6-only hosts.
>
> Now, it could be that the communications are translated to IPv4, X.25, or SNA in between. Yup, could happen. But we can communicate end to end using only IPv6, right?
>
> And, oh yes, someone using IPv4 (or X.25, or SNA) could go through a translator and communicate with an IPv6-only host in such a domain. It's IPv6-only up to that translator.
>
> The question boils down to - imagine I had only IPv6 to work with. Could we communicate? An IPv6-only host, or IPv6-only network, could communicate with that restriction. Everything else is noise - and if I have to deal with noise, it's not IPv6-only.

I totally agree. it was my understanding of IPv6-only as well.
So - back to the original problem of excluding some addresses from
DNS64 synthesis/NAT64 translation - I've been told that an IPv6-only
host might want to exclude some addresses from synthesis and use IPv4
to reach them, so I'm trying to understand how *an IPv6-only* host
(which, IMHO, can only use IPv6) reach anything using IPv4.

-- 
SY, Jen Linkova aka Furry