Re: NAT64 in RA, draft-ietf-6man-ra-pref64

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Fri, 28 June 2019 19:01 UTC

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Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com> wrote:
    > As a co-author, I don't see a real operational need for this at the moment.
    > Why is this not something that we can define later on in its own draft,
    > once we get more support for it and consensus that it is a useful thing to
    > do?

I'm not okay with this: I'd really like to be able to specify this in an RFP.
I'm okay with the mechanism being optional to support.

    > As an implementer, this really doesn't look like something I would want to
    > implement at the moment. Adding support for it would require writing a lot
    > of new code, and it would end up being unused anyway, because our
    > implementation prefers native IPv4 over 464xlat.

I'm not convinced that basic "single" interface smartphones need this.
Where I think it becomes important is in desktops where enterprises try to
move to IPv6-only networks, and wind up with islands of IPv4 legacy
equipement that is internal only.

I think that this mechanism removes a friction point that would prevent
enterprises from going IPv6-only for the majority of their desktop users.
Specifically, the small percentage of non-desktop-only users that might be
attached to other legacy (factory/plant/etc.) equipment.

There are other solutions we could come up with (BCPs), but they would be
harder to manage centrally.

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Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
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