Re: 64bit MAC addresses and SLAAC
Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Wed, 17 June 2020 15:30 UTC
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Subject: Re: 64bit MAC addresses and SLAAC
To: Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>
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From: Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>
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On 17/6/20 08:39, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: > Le 15/06/2020 à 23:01, Bob Hinden a écrit : >> Alexandre, >> >>> On Jun 15, 2020, at 1:23 PM, Alexandre Petrescu >>> <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Before the sanitary situation I was studying an issue at ISO. >>> >>> The issue is about 64bit MAC addresses and SLAAC. >>> >>> SLAAC needs a 48bit MAC addresses in order to work, and it can not >>> work with a 64bit MAC address; (but yes, it can with 64bit IIDs). >> >> SLACC does not specify the length of the Interface ID, it does not >> require require 48-bit MAC addresses, and the reason for Modified >> EUI-64 Format Interface Identifiers in RFC4291 was to support 64bit >> EUI-64 Identifiers. We have since moved away from using MAC >> addresses as Interface IDs. See RFC 8064. > > Bob, > > RFC8064 says "this document [...] recommends against embedding stable > link-layer addresses in IPv6 Interface Identifiers". > > But a 64bit MAC address could be a random number as well, not > necessarily stable. Windows randomizes some of its MAC addresses. Reusing IDs in multiple contexts is known to be a bad idea. See e.g.: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-pearg-numeric-ids-generation and https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-sec-considerations Thanks, -- Fernando Gont SI6 Networks e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492
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