Re: 64bit MAC addresses and SLAAC

Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Wed, 17 June 2020 19:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: 64bit MAC addresses and SLAAC
To: Philip Homburg <pch-ipv6-ietf-6@u-1.phicoh.com>, ipv6@ietf.org
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On 17/6/20 13:42, Philip Homburg wrote:
>> The case of "same IID with distinct prefixes" is the same as using
>> the same IID as the host moves from one network to another. And
>> that's quite bad for privacy. PLease see RFC7721.
> 
> I think they are quite different. If a host moves between different networks
> and keeps the same IID, then the movements of the host can be tracked.
> 
> If a host is connected to a subnet that has multiple prefixes, then using
> the same IID for all prefixes only has marginally less privacy than
> using different IIDs.

Well, it does allow correlation of network activities across addresses. 
In a way, that's kind of the same as when a host moves across networks.



> That said, in my opinion people who want any kind of control over what
> addresses are used, should use DHCPv6 (Or manual/static configuration)

+1


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