Re: 64bit MAC addresses and SLAAC
Philip Homburg <pch-ipv6-ietf-6@u-1.phicoh.com> Fri, 19 June 2020 14:28 UTC
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Subject: Re: 64bit MAC addresses and SLAAC
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> > We have that broker, it is called DHCPv6. > > As of today? I don't think the protocol has any limitations in this regard. I.e, a host could wait for an RA with a PIO option, generate an address and then use DHCPv6 to obtain that address. Whether any host does that or any dhcp server supports it is a different question. It doesn't need protocol changes. > Depending on what you expect from that broker, e.g., > who gets to select the IID, The host can propose an IID, the DHCPv6 server is the final authority. > can you use the broker for Address > Resolution, etc... Obviously, DHCPv6 is not going to do address resolution. > > Current DAD is certainly not good enough if there are regular address colli > sions > > Define "regular". I will agree if it is the opposite of quasi-impossible, > which is how we get SLAAC to work. Thus your original shortcut > that SLAAC=>randomIID though deep down it does not, it's just how > we do it with distributed DAD. Current SLAAC has to work with current DAD. Only after we change DAD, we can consider changing SLAAC. Having two hosts with the same IP address on a subnet is very hard to troubleshoot. So we have to keep the chance of that happening very low. Using 64-bit pseudo random numbers is a very effective way of doing that. > It's not just DAD, it's the whole ND system that has aged and needs > a lifting. Think wireless, overlays, NBMA meshes, large L2 domains... Address resolution using multicast can trivially be disabled (except for link local) by marking prefixes as offlink. I think that offers plenty of flexibility.
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