Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03>

Erik Kline <ek@google.com> Thu, 22 March 2018 18:13 UTC

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From: Erik Kline <ek@google.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 11:13:00 -0700
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Subject: Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03>
To: David Schinazi <dschinazi@apple.com>
Cc: Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org>, 6man WG <ipv6@ietf.org>, 6man-chairs@ietf.org
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Well, IPv4 link-local is not, to my knowledge, mandatory to implement.

So, you could just decide to turn it off in your OS.  :-)

FWIW, Android effectively removed support for it in M (IIRC).
According to [1] that means ~>50% of devices.

IMHO, IPv6 link-local is a better way to go for link-local
communications anyway.

-ek

[1] https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html

On 22 March 2018 at 11:00, David Schinazi <dschinazi@apple.com> wrote:
> I do not support adoption of draft-hinden-ipv4flag as it currently stands.
> It's still unclear to me what actual problems this draft is trying to solve, and that an RA flag is the right solution.
> For example, perhaps deprecating RFC 3927 is another way to solve some of the problems described in the introduction.
>
> Thanks,
> David Schinazi
>
>
>> On Mar 22, 2018, at 17:37, Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org> wrote:
>>
>> I would love to hear from host implementers. If they would implement support for this flag.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Ole
>>
>>> On 22 Mar 2018, at 16:47, Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> This message starts a two week 6MAN call on adopting:
>>>
>>>    Title     : IPv6 Router Advertisement IPv4 Unavailable Flag
>>>    Authors   : R. Hinden, B. Carpenter
>>>    Filename  : draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03
>>>    Pages     : 9
>>>    Date      : 2018-03-02
>>>
>>>    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hinden-ipv4flag/
>>>
>>> as a working group item. Substantive comments and statements of support
>>> for adopting this document should be directed to the mailing
>>> list. Editorial suggestions can be sent to the authors.  This adoption
>>> call will end on April 5th, 2018.
>>>
>>> See also the gap analysis from sunset4 on disabling IPv4:
>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sunset4-gapanalysis-09#section-3
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Ole Trøan
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