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Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03>

David Schinazi <dschinazi@apple.com> Thu, 22 March 2018 18:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03>
From: David Schinazi <dschinazi@apple.com>
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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 18:00:14 +0000
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To: Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org>
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I do not support adoption of draft-hinden-ipv4flag as it currently stands.
It's still unclear to me what actual problems this draft is trying to solve, and that an RA flag is the right solution.
For example, perhaps deprecating RFC 3927 is another way to solve some of the problems described in the introduction.

Thanks,
David Schinazi


> On Mar 22, 2018, at 17:37, Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org> wrote:
> 
> I would love to hear from host implementers. If they would implement support for this flag.
> 
> Best regards,
> Ole
> 
>> On 22 Mar 2018, at 16:47, Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org> wrote:
>> 
>> This message starts a two week 6MAN call on adopting:
>> 
>>    Title     : IPv6 Router Advertisement IPv4 Unavailable Flag
>>    Authors   : R. Hinden, B. Carpenter
>>    Filename  : draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03
>>    Pages     : 9
>>    Date      : 2018-03-02
>> 
>>    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hinden-ipv4flag/
>> 
>> as a working group item. Substantive comments and statements of support
>> for adopting this document should be directed to the mailing
>> list. Editorial suggestions can be sent to the authors.  This adoption
>> call will end on April 5th, 2018.
>> 
>> See also the gap analysis from sunset4 on disabling IPv4:
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sunset4-gapanalysis-09#section-3
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Ole Trøan
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