Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03>
Peter Hessler <phessler@theapt.org> Fri, 23 March 2018 11:57 UTC
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Subject: Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03>
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I would be involved with an implementation for OpenBSD. Based on my understanding of the point of this draft: If all RA's set the flag (and we have not yet received an DHCPACK on that link) we would probably want to turn off dhcpv4 on the interface, not enable any IPv4 link-local IP, and set sole control over resolv.conf to slaacd. If any RA sets the flag to 0, or if we have already received an DHCPACK, then we would continue to use the link for IPv6 and IPv4 as normal. Because we also have a native RA daemon, we would set this option to zero by default, and include a description in the documenation that an administrator should not set this if there is IPv4 available on the link. If disabling IPv4 on that link isn't the intention of this draft, I don't see why we would bother. -peter On 2018 Mar 22 (Thu) at 17:37:02 +0000 (+0000), Ole Troan wrote: :I would love to hear from host implementers. If they would implement support for this flag. : :Best regards, :Ole : :> On 22 Mar 2018, at 16:47, Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org> wrote: :> :> This message starts a two week 6MAN call on adopting: :> :> Title : IPv6 Router Advertisement IPv4 Unavailable Flag :> Authors : R. Hinden, B. Carpenter :> Filename : draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03 :> Pages : 9 :> Date : 2018-03-02 :> :> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hinden-ipv4flag/ :> :> as a working group item. Substantive comments and statements of support :> for adopting this document should be directed to the mailing :> list. Editorial suggestions can be sent to the authors. This adoption :> call will end on April 5th, 2018. :> :> See also the gap analysis from sunset4 on disabling IPv4: :> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sunset4-gapanalysis-09#section-3 :> :> Regards, :> :> Ole Trøan :> -------------------------------------------------------------------- :> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list :> ipv6@ietf.org :> Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 :> -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Very few profundities can be expressed in less than 80 characters.
- Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Ole Troan
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Rob Evans
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Michael Richardson
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Ole Troan
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> David Schinazi
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Erik Kline
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Roger Jørgensen
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Bob Hinden
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Andy Smith
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Mark Smith
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> David Schinazi
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Ole Troan
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Bob Hinden
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> David Schinazi
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Ole Troan
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Michael Richardson
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Michael Richardson
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Peter Hessler
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Michael Richardson
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Ole Troan
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Bjoern A. Zeeb
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Lee Howard
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Bob Hinden
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Jared Mauch
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Simon Hobson
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Michael Richardson
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Michael Richardson
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Ole Troan
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Bob Hinden
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Michael Richardson
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Ole Troan
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Michael Richardson
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Simon Hobson
- RE: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Fernando Gont
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Ole Troan
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Bob Hinden
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> David Schinazi
- RE: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Michael Richardson
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Ole Troan
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Ole Troan
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Ole Troan
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Simon Hobson
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Michael Richardson
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Glen Turner
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Fernando Gont
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Bjoern A. Zeeb
- RE: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> t.petch
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Simon Hobson
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Bjoern A. Zeeb
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Tim Chown
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Simon Hobson
- RE: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Mark Andrews
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Simon Hobson
- RE: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Michael Richardson
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Michael Richardson
- Re: DHCPv4 and default routes (Was: Adoption call… Simon Hobson
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Nick Hilliard
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Brian E Carpenter
- Re: DHCPv4 and default routes (Was: Adoption call… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Michael Richardson
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Ole Troan
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Adoption call for <draft-hinden-ipv4flag-03> Bjoern A. Zeeb