Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid-00.txt
Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Wed, 07 March 2012 15:11 UTC
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Subject: Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid-00.txt
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On Mar 7, 2012, at 15:22, Bill Fenner wrote: >> RFC 3986 is not sacred. > > Of course it's not sacred. Not sacred, but is is also not open for gratuitous changes. I don't see a technical reason to do anything else than what you proposed (i.e., not to stay within the confines of the standard). > On the concern of hosts using a > scope ID that does not fit in the IPvFuture grammar, RFC4007 says that > you SHOULD support a fully-numeric scope ID, so hopefully users will > be able to use the fully-numeric form. (Again, this goes to the rare > use case to me.) We could spec that fe80::1%foo\/bar is translated into fe80::1_foo_5c_2fbar if that is a real concern (i.e., do our own hex coding of unsupported characters [and "_" then of course]). (I hope it isn't.) <rant> People who think they can build a URI with printf() are in for a surprise in any case... </rant> > (Just a note about the use of "v6": the intent was to actually use > "v1"; the change log at the end of -02 claims that it changed from > "v6" to "v1" but the text didn't actually change. The version number > is meant to be the version of the IPvFuture, not the version of the > address inside it.) (I like v6 much better... (Would be v0, anyway, otherwise :-)) There doesn't seem to be a registry for these things, which should be created in the process; IANA can allocate that number then, which would move it out of the bike shed cycle. To make this all more concrete: The address: fe80::1%en1 becomes part of a URI like this: coap://[v6.fe80::1_en1]/... which is really easy to explain and document. Grüße, Carsten PS.: unfortunately, it also is cOAp://[V6.fe80::1_en1]/... Add a copy of 3986 3.1 An implementation should accept uppercase letters as equivalent to lowercase in ___ names (e.g., allow "HTTP" as well as "http") for the sake of robustness but should only produce lowercase scheme names for consistency. for good measure.
- 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid-00.… Brian Haberman
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid… Carsten Bormann
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid… Carsten Bormann
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid… Bill Fenner
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid… Carsten Bormann
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid… Carsten Bormann
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid… Kerry Lynn
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid… Bill Fenner
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid… Carsten Bormann
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid… Kerry Lynn
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid… Kerry Lynn
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid… Carsten Bormann
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid… Kerry Lynn
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid… Brian E Carpenter
- 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid-00.… Ted Hardie
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid… Ted Hardie