RE: Consensus call on adopting <draft-krishnan-6man-rs-mark-08.txt>

"Laganier, Julien" <julienl@qualcomm.com> Fri, 22 October 2010 17:24 UTC

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From: "Laganier, Julien" <julienl@qualcomm.com>
To: Philip Homburg <pch-6man@u-1.phicoh.com>, Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 10:25:45 -0700
Subject: RE: Consensus call on adopting <draft-krishnan-6man-rs-mark-08.txt>
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Philip Homburg wrote:
> 
> In your letter dated Fri, 22 Oct 2010 11:05:42 -0400 you wrote:
> >On 10-10-22 11:01 AM, Philip Homburg wrote:
> >> Then I guess the obvious next question is how this interacts with
> >> SEND if the original 3 RS messages are lost.
> >
> >The AN-initiated RSs in this case will not be SEND protected RSs (since
> >we do not have the host's private key), but the edge router is still
> >free to send SEND protected RAs back to the host in response to this RS.
> >Then the host and the edge router can use SEND for protecting any
> >further ND messages.
> 
> I wonder what to make of that. If the SEND protected RS messages can be
> replaced with AN-initiated (unprotected) RS messages, then what purpose
> does protecting those messages serve in the SEND framework?

The customer host will receive a SEND protected RA, which makes it possible to validate that it comes from a legitimate router (via certificates validation) and is not being replayed (via timestamps.)

BTW - I support adoption of this draft.

--julien