Re: IPv6 prefix lengths - how long?
Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> Fri, 07 June 2019 20:27 UTC
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Subject: Re: IPv6 prefix lengths - how long?
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Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> wrote: > Some AMS-IX people wrote a paper about 10y ago about this - "Effects of IPv4 > and IPv6 address resolution on AMS-IX and the ARP Sponge". Their > analysis Thank you for the pointers. my google results for the archives: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.182.4692 and https://www.delaat.net/rp/2008-2009/p23/report.pdf Effects of IPv and IPv address resolution on AMS-IX and the ARP Sponge Abstract Heavy ARP traffic can cause routers to run out of resources. Therefore, AMSIX developed a daemon called ARP Sponge. When the number of ARP requests for an IP address exceeds a threshold, the ARP Sponge starts sending ARP replies which keeps ARP traffic down. The ARP Sponge currently works using IPv only. IPv uses Neighbor Discovery (ND) instead of ARP for address resolution. ND uses the solicited-node multicast address instead of broadcast, consuming less resources from routers. Therefore, IPv support should not necessary, though it still can be used to detect network problems and legacy router configurations. We tested this on an emulation of the AMS-IX platform, both the current version and its new version, yet to be introduced, based on MPLS/VPLS and with various customer platforms and found that IPv support need (and maybe should) not be implemented. https://www.os3.nl/_media/2012-2013/courses/rp2/p57_report.pdf Abstract The AMS-IX ISP Peering LAN connects more than 600 routers. These routers use ARP in order to establish connectivity with each other. With such a large network, it can be expected that there are nodes down at any moment. Even if that is not the case, there are also ARP Requests for IP addresses no longer in use. This causes severe broadcast traffic in the network. All the nodes that are listening for ARP messages have to further process the packets, meaning that all nodes in the network will spend CPU cycles to process these messages. This is inefficient, as most of the time those messages do not concern them, and some devices even prioritize ARP processing over, for instance, routing protocol jobs. So far, the solution that AMS-IX has implemented is the ARP Sponge. This tool reduces the amount of broadcast traffic on the peering LAN by replying to ARP requests for dead addresses. The goal of this research project is to investigate the use of OpenFlow to further bring down the amount of broadcast traffic on the AMS-IX peering LAN.
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