Re: [irs-discuss] Rough Draft IRS Charter

David Meyer <dmm@1-4-5.net> Thu, 18 October 2012 22:23 UTC

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Subject: Re: [irs-discuss] Rough Draft IRS Charter
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On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Joel M. Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote:
> It seems to me that the second paragraph of the description is misleading
> and unfortunate.  The proposed interface is not inherently any faster (or
> slower) than any other existing interface.  It may in fact use existing
> protocols and mechanisms.  At the same time, the stated goal is to expose
> information and models that are generalizations or synthesized combinations
> of what the devices currently expose.  This is unlikely to be meaningfully
> manipulated using the same paradigms that operators currently use.

Agree Joel. In addition, there can easily be confusion as terms like
"fast path" are more conventionally used to refer to switching paths.

--dmm