Re: [Isis-wg] WG adoption of draft-baker-ipv6-isis-dst-src-routing-06

"Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsberg@cisco.com> Thu, 08 December 2016 22:27 UTC

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From: "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsberg@cisco.com>
To: Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] WG adoption of draft-baker-ipv6-isis-dst-src-routing-06
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Alia –

Yes – I am in the same boat – which is why I am asking the authors to provide some input on this point. Of course if anyone else has input I am happy to hear from you as well.
If we don’t have real deployments we are unlikely to get the kind of feedback essential to producing a specification that actually works.

   Les


From: Alia Atlas [mailto:akatlas@gmail.com]
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Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] WG adoption of draft-baker-ipv6-isis-dst-src-routing-06

Les,

I don't personally.  I'm still poking and hearing there is the problem.

Regards,
Alia

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 4:40 PM, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <ginsberg@cisco.com<mailto:ginsberg@cisco.com>> wrote:
Alia –

I am aware of the RTGWG work – I am asking do we have reason to believe that there will be devices running IS-IS that require this support.
If you have some information on this I would be interested to see it.

   Les


From: Alia Atlas [mailto:akatlas@gmail.com<mailto:akatlas@gmail.com>]
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Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] WG adoption of draft-baker-ipv6-isis-dst-src-routing-06

Les,

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <ginsberg@cisco.com<mailto:ginsberg@cisco.com>> wrote:
I think the bigger question – from the standpoint of WG adoption – is do we really believe there is a need for this extension?

There was a time when IS-IS was being considered as the homenet protocol – that ship seems to have sailed.
So the question becomes do we really think there is a deployment where these extensions will be needed? If the answer to that is yes, then I am convinced that the direction this draft has taken is the right one and we should then do the diligence necessary to finish the job.
But if the answer is “no” then this does not seem a worthwhile use of our time.

Have you been following the discussion in RTGWG around https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bowbakova-rtgwg-enterprise-pa-multihoming/
and https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-dst-src-routing/<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-dst-src-routing/>  ?

The issues around IPv6 multihoming are not primarily related to homenet - though homenet also has those same issues.

Regards,
Alia


David (and/or others) – can you comment on this?

   Les


From: Isis-wg [mailto:isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org>] On Behalf Of Tony Przygienda
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 11:25 AM
To: Christian Hopps
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Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] WG adoption of draft-baker-ipv6-isis-dst-src-routing-06

I sent good amount of comments on the draft a while ago. While I support adoption I think those need addressing to ensure correctness of the draft ... tony

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 6:27 AM, <chopps@chopps.org<mailto:chopps@chopps.org>> wrote:
Hi Folks,

The authors of draft-baker-ipv6-isis-dst-src-routing-06 have requested
WG adoption. Please indicate whether you support adoption of this work
(some folks already have on the list). This is a 2 week call ending
Thursday, November 24th, 2016.

Can the authors also reply to this mail indicating whether they know of
any IPR related to this draft?

Thanks,
Chris.

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