Re: [ipwave] IPWAVE WG will not meet in Singapore
"Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> Tue, 10 September 2019 17:11 UTC
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From: "Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 02:10:34 +0900
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To: Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [ipwave] IPWAVE WG will not meet in Singapore
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Hi Alex, Your suggestion of Route Information Option (24) will be good. I agree at your suggestion. If other people in our IPWAVE WG think that it is good, I will reflect your suggestion on the revision of the Vehicular ND draft. Thanks. Paul On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 10:50 PM Alexandre Petrescu < alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Le 08/09/2019 à 13:32, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong a écrit : > > Hi Russ, You are right. > > > > However, as you know, the IPWAVE PS draft focuses on the three work > > items such as the Vehicular Neighbor Discovery (VND), Vehicular > > Mobility Management (VMM), Security and Privacy. The first two work > > items have been posted before along with the IETF Hackathons and will > > be revised before the I-D submission due for the IETF-106 meeting. - > > VND > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-neighbor-discovery/ > > Thanks for this draft. > > The draft says: > > > 6.1. Vehicular Prefix Information Option > > > > The VPI option contains IPv6 prefix informations in the internal > > network. Figure 4 shows the format of the VPI option. > > > > 0 1 2 3 > > 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > | Type | Length | Prefix Length | Distance | > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > | Reserved | > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > | | > > : Prefix : > > | | > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > Figure 4: Vehicular Prefix Information (VPI) Option Format > > > > Fields: > > Type 8-bit identifier of the VPI option type as assigned > > by the IANA: TBD > > For the value of the TBD, I propose we use the number decimal 24. It is > the Type for Route Information Option of RFC4191. > > This is what we use in our cars. If we bring these cars to another > country, or connect them to other cars, I dont want them to fail because > of wrong Type number. > > Alex > > > > > - VMM > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-mobility-management/ > > > > The security and privacy draft will be prepared by my SKKU group > > with our previous research and will be posted this month. > > > > As a possible work item, the DNS name auto configuration (DNSNA) > > draft for in-vehicle IoT devices has been revised so far. - DNSNA > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-iot-dns-autoconf/ > > > > I believe that the other IPWAVE drafts will be revised and posted > > before the I-D submission due. > > > > IPWAVE WG, if you have the existing IPWAVE drafts and new ideas, > > could you post your drafts before the I-D submission due in order to > > discuss next work items for the IPWAVE rechartering in the IETF-106 > > IPWAVE WG session? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Best Regards, Paul > > > > 2019년 9월 8일 (일) 오전 12:44, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com > > <mailto:housley@vigilsec.com>>님이 작성: > > > > Paul: > > > > As I said in my note that started this thread, we will measure energy > > for potential work items by individual Internet-Draft posting and > > mail list discussion of them. So far, we have not seen any > > Internet-Drafts. > > > > Russ > > > > > >> On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:41 PM, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong > >> <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com <mailto:jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Russ and Carlos, It seems like Charlie cannot afford to review > >> the revised IPWAVE PS draft due to his work. > >> > >> Could you review the IPWAVE PS draft as chairs for the WGLC? > >> > >> BTW, could we have a short WG session in this Singapore meeting to > >> report the progress of the IPWAVE PS draft? > >> > >> My SKKU team are preparing for IPWAVE Hackathon Project for IPWAVE > >> mobility management in IETF-106 Singapore meeting. This experience > >> will be useful to discuss our next step. Also, I am planning to > >> implement the IPWAVE basic protocols such as IPv6 over 802.11-OCB, > >> Vehicular Neighbor Discovery, and Vehicular Mobility Management in > >> Ubuntu Linux early next year. In this IETF-106 meeting, we can > >> discuss our next step. If there is no official IPWAVE WG meeting, I > >> want to have a bar meeting with IPWAVE WG members during the > >> IETF-106 meeting.. > >> > >> Recently, I had a meeting with a principal engineer (Mr. Zeung-il > >> Kim) from Hyundai Motor, which is the major automotive company in > >> Korea. His team has interest in implementing IPv6 over 802.11-OCB > >> for the vehicular services such as remote charging system, > >> context-aware navigator and infotainment for electric vehicles. I > >> will have a meeting with his team this September again. > >> > >> As you want, our IPWAVE WG need to go to the next step for the > >> realization of IPWAVE for the industry's demands in the coming > >> autonomous vehicle era. > >> > >> Thanks for your kind considerations on my request. > >> > >> Best Regards, Paul > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 10:31 PM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong > >> <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com <mailto:jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Charlie, Do you need more time to finish the review? > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> Best Regards, Paul > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 2:52 AM Charlie Perkins > >> <charles.perkins@earthlink.net > >> <mailto:charles.perkins@earthlink.net>> wrote: > >> > >> Hello Paul, > >> > >> Please excuse my delay. I will get the review done in the next > >> week. > >> > >> Regards, Charlie P. > >> > >> On 8/24/2019 1:55 AM, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong wrote: > >>> Hi Russ and Carlos, My SKKU team have been working for IPWAVE > >>> Neighbor Discovery for IETF-104 and IETF-105. For IETF-106, my > >>> team are working for IPWAVE Mobility Management. The IPWAVE > >>> Neighbor Discovery draft will be coauthored by my SKKU team and > >>> Sandra Cespedes for next revision. > >>> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-neighbor-discovery/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > The IPWAVE Mobility Management draft will be coauthored > >>> by my SKKU team and Sri Gundavelli for next revision. > >>> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-mobility-management/ > >>> > >>> > <https://datatracker.. > ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-mobility-management/> > >>> > >>> > >>> For the IPWAVE PS draft, Charlie Perkins was supposed to confirm > >>> whether my revision satisfies his comments or not. For one month, > >>> there was no feedback from him. It seems like he cannot afford to > >>> review it due to his personal issues. > >>> > >>> I would like to ask you as IPWAVE WG chairs to be able to lead > >>> our group more actively by reviewing the PS draft and submitting > >>> it to the IESG through the WG last call.. > >>> > >>> After the completion of the IPWAVE PS draft, our group will be > >>> able to discuss the rechartering and new work items. > >>> > >>> By the way, I met an engineer from the Hyundai automotive to > >>> discuss IPWAVE-based applications for vehicles. His team > >>> implemented a remote charging system control protocol for > >>> electric vehicles using IEEE 802.11n, and will use IEEE > >>> 802.11-OCB for this system. His team are looking for use cases of > >>> IPWAVE protocols such as context-aware navigator to show neighbor > >>> vehicles and pedestrians. > >>> > >>> If IPWAVE WG is closed, we will lose the opportunity to enable > >>> our IPWAVE work items described in the PS draft that are the > >>> near-future demands in automotive industry. > >>> > >>> As my personal request, it will be great to have a short IPWAVE > >>> WG session this Singapore meeting. > >>> > >>> Thanks. > >>> > >>> Best Regards, Paul > >>> > >>> On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 12:22 AM Russ Housley > >>> <housley@vigilsec.com <mailto:housley@vigilsec.com>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Dear IPWAVE WG: > >>> > >>> We do not see the need for a meeting in Singapore. We believe > >>> that mail list discussion is needed to wrap up the Problem > >>> Statement document. > >>> > >>> We observe that the energy in this WG is pretty low. As a result, > >>> we are quite reluctant to re-charter to tackle new work items. > >>> The Problem Statement document includes many potential topics, > >>> but without a great deal more energy, this WG does not seem to > >>> be the right place to tackle them.. This means that the IPWAVE > >>> WG will be closed down once the current charter is complete > >>> unless the chairs and our AD see a significant increase in energy > >>> for one or more potential work items. This will be measured by > >>> individual Internet-Draft posting and mail list discussion of > >>> them. > >>> > >>> Russ and Carlos > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ its mailing list > >>> its@ietf.org <mailto:its@ietf.org> > >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- =========================== Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. > >>> Associate Professor Department of Software Sungkyunkwan > >>> University Office: +82-31-299-4957 Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com > >>> <mailto:jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>, pauljeong@skku.edu > >>> <mailto:pauljeong@skku.edu> Personal Homepage: > >>> http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php > >>> <http://cpslab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ its mailing list > >>> its@ietf.org <mailto:its@ietf.org> > >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > >> > >> > >> > >> -- =========================== Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. > >> Associate Professor Department of Software Sungkyunkwan University > >> Office: +82-31-299-4957 Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com > >> <mailto:jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>, pauljeong@skku.edu > >> <mailto:pauljeong@skku.edu> Personal Homepage: > >> http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php > >> <http://cpslab.skku..edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- =========================== Mr.. 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- Re: [ipwave] IPWAVE WG will not meet in Singapore Charlie Perkins
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- Re: [ipwave] IPWAVE WG will not meet in Singapore Chris Shen
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- Re: [ipwave] IPWAVE WG will not meet in Singapore Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong
- Re: [ipwave] IPWAVE WG will not meet in Singapore Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong