Re: [ipwave] IPWAVE WG will not meet in Singapore

["Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" <[e-mail]>]

Hi Alex,
Your suggestion of Route Information Option (24) will be good.
I agree at your suggestion.

If other people in our IPWAVE WG think that it is good,
I will reflect your suggestion on the revision of the Vehicular ND draft.

Thanks.

Paul

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 10:50 PM Alexandre Petrescu <
[e-mail]> wrote:

>
>
> Le 08/09/2019 à 13:32, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong a écrit :
> > Hi Russ, You are right.
> >
> > However, as you know, the IPWAVE PS draft focuses on the three work
> > items such as the Vehicular Neighbor Discovery (VND), Vehicular
> > Mobility Management (VMM), Security and Privacy. The first two work
> > items have been posted before along with the IETF Hackathons and will
> > be revised before the I-D submission due for the IETF-106 meeting. -
> > VND
> >
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-neighbor-discovery/
>
> Thanks for this draft.
>
> The draft says:
>
> > 6.1.  Vehicular Prefix Information Option
> >
> >    The VPI option contains IPv6 prefix informations in the internal
> >    network.  Figure 4 shows the format of the VPI option.
>  >
> >       0                   1                   2                   3
> >       0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
> >      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> >      |     Type      |    Length     | Prefix Length |   Distance    |
> >      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> >      |                           Reserved                            |
> >      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> >      |                                                               |
> >      :                            Prefix                             :
> >      |                                                               |
> >      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> >
> >         Figure 4: Vehicular Prefix Information (VPI) Option Format
> >
> >    Fields:
> >     Type           8-bit identifier of the VPI option type as assigned
> >                    by the IANA: TBD
>
> For the value of the TBD, I propose we use the number decimal 24.  It is
> the Type for Route Information Option of RFC4191.
>
> This is what we use in our cars.  If we bring these cars to another
> country, or connect them to other cars, I dont want them to fail because
> of wrong Type number.
>
> Alex
>
> >
> >  - VMM
> >
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-mobility-management/
> >
> >  The security and privacy draft will be prepared by my SKKU group
> > with our previous research and will be posted this month.
> >
> > As a possible work item, the DNS name auto configuration (DNSNA)
> > draft for in-vehicle IoT devices has been revised so far. - DNSNA
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-iot-dns-autoconf/
> >
> >  I believe that the other IPWAVE drafts will be revised and posted
> > before the I-D submission due.
> >
> > IPWAVE WG, if you have the existing IPWAVE drafts and new ideas,
> > could you post your drafts before the I-D submission due in order to
> > discuss next work items for the IPWAVE rechartering in the IETF-106
> > IPWAVE WG session?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Best Regards, Paul
> >
> > 2019년 9월 8일 (일) 오전 12:44, Russ Housley <[e-mail]
> > <mailto:[e-mail]>>님이 작성:
> >
> > Paul:
> >
> > As I said in my note that started this thread, we will measure energy
> > for potential work items by individual Internet-Draft posting and
> > mail list discussion of them.  So far, we have not seen any
> > Internet-Drafts.
> >
> > Russ
> >
> >
> >> On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:41 PM, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong
> >> <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Russ and Carlos, It seems like Charlie cannot afford to review
> >> the revised IPWAVE PS draft due to his work.
> >>
> >> Could you review the IPWAVE PS draft as chairs for the WGLC?
> >>
> >> BTW, could we have a short WG session in this Singapore meeting to
> >> report the progress of the IPWAVE PS draft?
> >>
> >> My SKKU team are preparing for IPWAVE Hackathon Project for IPWAVE
> >> mobility management in IETF-106 Singapore meeting. This experience
> >> will be useful to discuss our next step. Also, I am planning to
> >> implement the IPWAVE basic protocols such as IPv6 over 802.11-OCB,
> >> Vehicular Neighbor Discovery, and Vehicular Mobility Management in
> >> Ubuntu Linux early next year. In this IETF-106 meeting, we can
> >> discuss our next step. If there is no official IPWAVE WG meeting, I
> >> want to have a bar meeting with IPWAVE WG members during the
> >> IETF-106 meeting..
> >>
> >> Recently, I had a meeting with a principal engineer (Mr. Zeung-il
> >> Kim) from Hyundai Motor, which is the major automotive company in
> >> Korea. His team has interest in implementing IPv6 over 802.11-OCB
> >> for the vehicular services such as remote charging system,
> >> context-aware navigator and infotainment for electric vehicles. I
> >> will have a meeting with his team this September again.
> >>
> >> As you want, our IPWAVE WG need to go to the next step for the
> >> realization of IPWAVE for the industry's demands in the coming
> >> autonomous vehicle era.
> >>
> >> Thanks for your kind considerations on my request.
> >>
> >> Best Regards, Paul
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 10:31 PM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong
> >> <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Charlie, Do you need more time to finish the review?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Best Regards, Paul
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 2:52 AM Charlie Perkins
> >> <[e-mail]
> >> <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello Paul,
> >>
> >> Please excuse my delay.  I will get the review done in the next
> >> week.
> >>
> >> Regards, Charlie P.
> >>
> >> On 8/24/2019 1:55 AM, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong wrote:
> >>> Hi Russ and Carlos, My SKKU team have been working for IPWAVE
> >>> Neighbor Discovery for IETF-104 and IETF-105. For IETF-106, my
> >>> team are working for IPWAVE Mobility Management. The IPWAVE
> >>> Neighbor Discovery draft will be coauthored by my SKKU team and
> >>> Sandra Cespedes for next revision.
> >>>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-neighbor-discovery/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> The IPWAVE Mobility Management draft will be coauthored
> >>> by my SKKU team and Sri Gundavelli for next revision.
> >>>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-mobility-management/
> >>>
> >>>
> <https://datatracker..
> ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-mobility-management/>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> For the IPWAVE PS draft, Charlie Perkins was supposed to confirm
> >>> whether my revision satisfies his comments or not. For one month,
> >>> there was no feedback from him. It seems like he cannot afford to
> >>> review it due to his personal issues.
> >>>
> >>> I would like to ask you as IPWAVE WG chairs to be able to lead
> >>> our group more actively by reviewing the PS draft and submitting
> >>> it to the IESG through the WG last call..
> >>>
> >>> After the completion of the IPWAVE PS draft, our group will be
> >>> able to discuss the rechartering and new work items.
> >>>
> >>> By the way, I met an engineer from the Hyundai automotive to
> >>> discuss IPWAVE-based applications for vehicles. His team
> >>> implemented a remote charging system control protocol for
> >>> electric vehicles using IEEE 802.11n, and will use IEEE
> >>> 802.11-OCB for this system. His team are looking for use cases of
> >>> IPWAVE protocols such as context-aware navigator to show neighbor
> >>> vehicles and pedestrians.
> >>>
> >>> If IPWAVE WG is closed, we will lose the opportunity to enable
> >>> our IPWAVE work items described in the PS draft that are the
> >>> near-future demands in automotive industry.
> >>>
> >>> As my personal request, it will be great to have a short IPWAVE
> >>> WG session this Singapore meeting.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards, Paul
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 12:22 AM Russ Housley
> >>> <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear IPWAVE WG:
> >>>
> >>> We do not see the need for a meeting in Singapore. We believe
> >>> that mail list discussion is needed to wrap up the Problem
> >>> Statement document.
> >>>
> >>> We observe that the energy in this WG is pretty low. As a result,
> >>> we are quite reluctant to re-charter to tackle new work items.
> >>> The Problem Statement document includes many potential topics,
> >>> but without a great deal more energy, this WG does not seem to
> >>> be the right place to tackle them..  This means that the IPWAVE
> >>> WG will be closed down once the current charter is complete
> >>> unless the chairs and our AD see a significant increase in energy
> >>> for one or more potential work items.  This will be measured by
> >>> individual Internet-Draft posting and mail list discussion of
> >>> them.
> >>>
> >>> Russ and Carlos
> >>>
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