Re: [ipwave] Request for Review on IPWAVE PS Draft

["Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" <[e-mail]>]

Hi Alex,
In South Korea, people are aware of PRESTO (ISO 22951:2009)
for traffic light control for emergency vehicles, but it seems like
there is no standardized, implemented protocol in South Korea yet.
I guess that Korean people will try to implement the ISO's PRESTO in future.

The PRESTO does not specify a specific delivery protocol, so
our IPWAVE will be a good candidate for this traffic light control, so
we can include this into our PS document as a use case.

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Paul



On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 9:43 PM Alexandre Petrescu <
[e-mail]> wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
> Thank you for the reply.
>
> In this particular case, I am not asking to make modifications to the
> draft.
>
> But, for my information, I would like to learn: what protocol is used in
> in S Korea to communicate with the traffic lights controller?
>
> I need such a protocol in a use-case where the car may have the ability
> to ask, under certain circumstances, the traffic light to turn to green,
> or to learn how much time is left for red.
>
> In France that protocol is called "DIASER" (it is an abbreviation for
> "DIAlogue Standard des Equipements de Régulation de trafic".)
>
> At ISO, which is an International SDO, there is "PRESTO" (ISO 22951:2009
> "Data dictionary and message sets for preemption and prioritization
> signal systems for emergency and public transport vehicles (PRESTO)).
>
> Alex
>
> Le 28/11/2018 à 02:28, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong a écrit :
> > Hi Alex,
> > I will address your comments with other reviewers' comments for the
> > revision.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Paul
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 11:00 PM Alexandre Petrescu
> > <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>>
> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi Paul,
> >
> >     I have a few comments to the draft that I would like to mention.
> >
> >     At this time, I do not request to modify the draft.  Thank you.
> >
> >     Here are my comments:
> >
> >     In the V2V section:
> >     - do not forget there is a funny typo: "obstables".
> >     - the 4 paragraphs in this section read good and make sense.
> >     - at ISO/TC204, there is recently an activity called
> >         "Vehicle to Vehicle Intersection Collision Warning System
> (VVICW)"
> >         The private Word document ISO 23376:20##(E) has 16 pages and I
> can
> >         discuss it in private with interested parties.
> >
> >     In the V2I section:
> >     - the three paragraphs read good.
> >
> >     - in addition, in my project, we consider V2I to also mean direct
> >         communication between the car and the nearby Traffic Lights
> >         Controller.
> >
> >         The communication between the car and the traffic lights
> controller
> >         can happen in two distinct V2I ways: from car to TCC and back to
> >         traffic lights controller, or from car to traffic traffic lights
> >         controller (not through TCC).
> >
> >         The end-to-end protocol between car and traffic lights
> >     controller can
> >         be the same protocol as the protocol between TCC and the traffic
> >         lights controller.  In France that protocol is called "DIASER".
> >     But,
> >         for international (maybe France - Netherlands) we also consider
> the
> >         ISO protocol called "PRESTO".  DIASER runs over IP (and on
> serial),
> >         but we wonder whether PRESTO runs over IP.
> >
> >     In section "5.1.2 Routing":
> >     - the section lists "VANET Geo Routing",
> >         but we do not use geographical routing.
> >     - the section lists
> >         "IPv6 Neighbor Discovery for IP-Based Vehicular Networks"
> >         for potential use for V2V communications.
> >         Instead, we use RFC4191 "More Specific Routes".
> >         This RFC4191 has a problem in that it is only for Hosts.
> >         We want RFC4191 to be for Routers as well.
> >         This RFC4191 is partially implemented in two alternatives in
> linux:
> >         (1) in the linux kernel and (2) in openwrt's odhcp6c.  The latter
> >         needs a little bit of extension because by default it is not
> capable
> >         of doing _only_ "more specific routes", it wants to also do
> default
> >         route and address autoconfiguration.
> >
> >     Alex
> >
> >     Le 21/11/2018 à 05:27, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong a écrit :
> >      > Hi Sri Gundavelli and Jung-Soo Park,
> >      > Thanks for your volunteering on the review of our IPWAVE PS draft:
> >      >
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-07
> >      >
> >      > Could you share your review within this December?
> >      >
> >      > Once I get your comments, I will address yours along with the
> >     co-authors.
> >      >
> >      > Thanks again.
> >      >
> >      > Best Regards,
> >      > Paul
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Department of Software
Sungkyunkwan University
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