Re: [ipwave] Request for Review on IPWAVE PS Draft

Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Wed, 28 November 2018 12:43 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ipwave] Request for Review on IPWAVE PS Draft
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Hi Paul,

Thank you for the reply.

In this particular case, I am not asking to make modifications to the draft.

But, for my information, I would like to learn: what protocol is used in 
in S Korea to communicate with the traffic lights controller?

I need such a protocol in a use-case where the car may have the ability 
to ask, under certain circumstances, the traffic light to turn to green, 
or to learn how much time is left for red.

In France that protocol is called "DIASER" (it is an abbreviation for 
"DIAlogue Standard des Equipements de Régulation de trafic".)

At ISO, which is an International SDO, there is "PRESTO" (ISO 22951:2009 
"Data dictionary and message sets for preemption and prioritization 
signal systems for emergency and public transport vehicles (PRESTO)).

Alex

Le 28/11/2018 à 02:28, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong a écrit :
> Hi Alex,
> I will address your comments with other reviewers' comments for the 
> revision.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Paul
> 
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 11:00 PM Alexandre Petrescu 
> <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com <mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi Paul,
> 
>     I have a few comments to the draft that I would like to mention.
> 
>     At this time, I do not request to modify the draft.  Thank you.
> 
>     Here are my comments:
> 
>     In the V2V section:
>     - do not forget there is a funny typo: "obstables".
>     - the 4 paragraphs in this section read good and make sense.
>     - at ISO/TC204, there is recently an activity called
>         "Vehicle to Vehicle Intersection Collision Warning System (VVICW)"
>         The private Word document ISO 23376:20##(E) has 16 pages and I can
>         discuss it in private with interested parties.
> 
>     In the V2I section:
>     - the three paragraphs read good.
> 
>     - in addition, in my project, we consider V2I to also mean direct
>         communication between the car and the nearby Traffic Lights
>         Controller.
> 
>         The communication between the car and the traffic lights controller
>         can happen in two distinct V2I ways: from car to TCC and back to
>         traffic lights controller, or from car to traffic traffic lights
>         controller (not through TCC).
> 
>         The end-to-end protocol between car and traffic lights
>     controller can
>         be the same protocol as the protocol between TCC and the traffic
>         lights controller.  In France that protocol is called "DIASER". 
>     But,
>         for international (maybe France - Netherlands) we also consider the
>         ISO protocol called "PRESTO".  DIASER runs over IP (and on serial),
>         but we wonder whether PRESTO runs over IP.
> 
>     In section "5.1.2 Routing":
>     - the section lists "VANET Geo Routing",
>         but we do not use geographical routing.
>     - the section lists
>         "IPv6 Neighbor Discovery for IP-Based Vehicular Networks"
>         for potential use for V2V communications.
>         Instead, we use RFC4191 "More Specific Routes".
>         This RFC4191 has a problem in that it is only for Hosts.
>         We want RFC4191 to be for Routers as well.
>         This RFC4191 is partially implemented in two alternatives in linux:
>         (1) in the linux kernel and (2) in openwrt's odhcp6c.  The latter
>         needs a little bit of extension because by default it is not capable
>         of doing _only_ "more specific routes", it wants to also do default
>         route and address autoconfiguration.
> 
>     Alex
> 
>     Le 21/11/2018 à 05:27, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong a écrit :
>      > Hi Sri Gundavelli and Jung-Soo Park,
>      > Thanks for your volunteering on the review of our IPWAVE PS draft:
>      > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-07
>      >
>      > Could you share your review within this December?
>      >
>      > Once I get your comments, I will address yours along with the
>     co-authors.
>      >
>      > Thanks again.
>      >
>      > Best Regards,
>      > Paul
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