Re: [ipwave] IPWAVE WG will not meet in Singapore

[Charlie Perkins <[e-mail]>]

Hello folks,

I've been reviewing the document.

I expect to send my review tomorrow.  Should I post it to the list?  
Most of the comments are editorial.

Regards,
Charlie P.

On 9/5/2019 5:41 PM, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong wrote:
> Hi Russ and Carlos,
> It seems like Charlie cannot afford to review the revised IPWAVE PS 
> draft due to his work.
>
> Could you review the IPWAVE PS draft as chairs for the WGLC?
>
> BTW, could we have a short WG session in this Singapore meeting to 
> report the progress of the IPWAVE PS draft?
>
> My SKKU team are preparing for IPWAVE Hackathon Project for IPWAVE 
> mobility management in IETF-106 Singapore meeting.
> This experience will be useful to discuss our next step.
> Also, I am planning to implement the IPWAVE basic protocols such as 
> IPv6 over 802.11-OCB, Vehicular Neighbor Discovery, and
> Vehicular Mobility Management in Ubuntu Linux early next year.
> In this IETF-106 meeting, we can discuss our next step.
> If there is no official IPWAVE WG meeting, I want to have a bar 
> meeting with IPWAVE WG members during the IETF-106 meeting..
>
> Recently, I had a meeting with a principal engineer (Mr. Zeung-il Kim) 
> from Hyundai Motor, which is the major automotive company in Korea.
> His team has interest in implementing IPv6 over 802.11-OCB for the 
> vehicular services such as remote charging system,
> context-aware navigator and infotainment for electric vehicles.
> I will have a meeting with his team this September again.
>
> As you want, our IPWAVE WG need to go to the next step for the 
> realization of IPWAVE for the industry's demands
> in the coming autonomous vehicle era.
>
> Thanks for your kind considerations on my request.
>
> Best Regards,
> Paul
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 10:31 PM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong 
> <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Charlie,
>     Do you need more time to finish the review?
>
>     Thanks.
>
>     Best Regards,
>     Paul
>
>
>     On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 2:52 AM Charlie Perkins
>     <[e-mail]
>     <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>
>         Hello Paul,
>
>         Please excuse my delay.  I will get the review done in the
>         next week.
>
>         Regards,
>         Charlie P.
>
>         On 8/24/2019 1:55 AM, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong wrote:
>>         Hi Russ and Carlos,
>>         My SKKU team have been working for IPWAVE Neighbor Discovery
>>         for IETF-104 and IETF-105.
>>         For IETF-106, my team are working for IPWAVE Mobility Management.
>>         The IPWAVE Neighbor Discovery draft will be coauthored by my
>>         SKKU team and Sandra Cespedes
>>         for next revision.
>>         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-neighbor-discovery/
>>
>>
>>         The IPWAVE Mobility Management draft will be coauthored by my
>>         SKKU team and Sri Gundavelli
>>         for next revision.
>>         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-mobility-management/
>>         <https://datatracker..ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-mobility-management/>
>>
>>
>>         For the IPWAVE PS draft, Charlie Perkins was supposed to
>>         confirm whether my revision satisfies his
>>         comments or not. For one month, there was no feedback from him.
>>         It seems like he cannot afford to review it due to his
>>         personal issues.
>>
>>         I would like to ask you as IPWAVE WG chairs to be able to
>>         lead our group more actively by
>>         reviewing the PS draft and submitting it to the IESG through
>>         the WG last call..
>>
>>         After the completion of the IPWAVE PS draft, our group will
>>         be able to discuss the rechartering and
>>         new work items.
>>
>>         By the way, I met an engineer from the Hyundai automotive to
>>         discuss IPWAVE-based applications
>>         for vehicles. His team implemented a remote charging system
>>         control protocol for electric vehicles
>>         using IEEE 802.11n, and will use IEEE 802.11-OCB for this system.
>>         His team are looking for use cases of IPWAVE protocols such
>>         as context-aware navigator to show
>>         neighbor vehicles and pedestrians.
>>
>>         If IPWAVE WG is closed, we will lose the opportunity to
>>         enable our IPWAVE work items described in the PS draft
>>         that are the near-future demands in automotive industry.
>>
>>         As my personal request, it will be great to have a short
>>         IPWAVE WG session this Singapore meeting.
>>
>>         Thanks.
>>
>>         Best Regards,
>>         Paul
>>
>>         On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 12:22 AM Russ Housley
>>         <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>
>>             Dear IPWAVE WG:
>>
>>             We do not see the need for a meeting in Singapore.  We
>>             believe that mail list discussion is needed to wrap up
>>             the Problem Statement document.
>>
>>             We observe that the energy in this WG is pretty low.  As
>>             a result, we are quite reluctant to re-charter to tackle
>>             new work items.  The Problem Statement document includes
>>             many potential topics, but without a great deal more
>>             energy, this WG does not seem to be the right place to
>>             tackle them.. This means that the IPWAVE WG will be
>>             closed down once the current charter is complete unless
>>             the chairs and our AD see a significant increase in
>>             energy for one or more potential work items.  This will
>>             be measured by individual Internet-Draft posting and mail
>>             list discussion of them.
>>
>>             Russ and Carlos
>>
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