Re: [Json] Kicking Off JSONbis

Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> Wed, 14 October 2015 04:22 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Json] Kicking Off JSONbis
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>> > In a nutshell, the goal of this effort is to produce a bis to 7159 that:
>> >
>> > * promotes JSON to IETF Internet Standard
>> > * references ECMA-404 and is a reference for ECMA-404
>> >
>> > Tim Bray has agreed to edit 7159bis.
>> >
>> > As a start, I propose we start with rfc7159 and:
>> >
>> > 1) Apply verified errata from <
>> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=7159
>> > 2) Change the reference to ECMA-404 from informative to normative
>>
>> Can we get a first version of this before the I-D cutoff for Yoko
>> (this coming Monday, 19 Oct)?
>
> Sure, but isn’t a consensus call on the substantive change to the spec in
> order?

That could be done by posting an I-D to make the proposal, and have
the working group review it and comment on it.  Right now, there's
just a "here's what we plan to do", and there've been a few comments
about that.  Specific text to review might help, no?

Barry