Re: [Json] Two Documents

John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org> Wed, 19 June 2013 15:03 UTC

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Tim Bray scripsit:

> So I think it would be abusive to our customers to make them read two
> documents to get their jobs done.  I’m scratching my head to think of
> anyone who would read one of these documents but not the other, and I’m
> coming up empty.

People who are reading or writing JSON text with general editors are the
obvious targets for a syntax-only document.  One group would be
programmers dealing with JSON literals; another would be people writing
books or papers or standards that involve JSON examples.  This group
doesn't care about encoding or security, but I agree that they would
not be injured by an RFC that contains this information, provided it is
not intertwingled with the syntax.

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