Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10
"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Sat, 08 September 2012 02:53 UTC
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Subject: Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10
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The definition of how to actually perform such forwarding would have to be done in (or in close collaboration with) the L2VPN WG. This document does not define how that is done. It reserves a code point for identifying the specific kind of information, if someone does want to do it. I have sent a notification to the chairs of all the related working groups that I could identify to let them know of this document. Yours, Joel On 9/7/2012 11:19 AM, Ross Callon wrote: > I find this email confusing. Can you explain when you would use a MAC ID as the EID, and yet *not* have this be an L2VPN? Routing packets based on a MAC ID over a layer 3 network seems to me to be pretty close to the definition of a layer 2 VPN. > > Thanks, Ross > > PS: I dropped the IESG from the CC line since I don't think that the entire IESG wants to follow this. > > -----Original Message----- > From: lisp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:lisp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Terry Manderson > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 8:44 PM > To: Yakov Rekhter > Cc: LISP mailing list list; iesg@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 > > Hi Yakov, > > I disagree with you that it describes its use for L2VPN. It provides the > ability to use a MAC as an EID. There are no normative verbs used, and > noting the experimental nature of the draft I must admit that I am > struggling to see the basis for your objection given that the LCAF draft is > an underlying modification to the LISP control messages (in that it does > fall in the mandate of the charter). > > Putting on my 'research advocacy' hat, and highlighting that all of the > protocol documents issued by LISP are chartered to be experimental, I feel > perfectly comfortable having the documents from the LISP experiment not shy > away from the existence of, or the possibility of, encapsulating other > address formats. > > I will draw a line the minute the LISP WG attempts to impose or change > behaviors on the documented work from another chartered WG, and will happily > direct (as written in the charter) any such work to the appropriate WG. > > Cheers > Terry > > > > On 6/09/12 11:55 PM, "Yakov Rekhter" <yakov@juniper.net> wrote: > >> Terry, >> >>> I view that there is consensus in the workgroup to adopt this draft as a >>> work group item. >>> >>> Can the authors please submit a revision in the appropriate fashion. >>> >>> I'd also like to remind the authors that as a WG document I am expecting >>> that any substantive document changes are the result of WG discussion. >>> >>> I would also like to call the WG's attention to the comments regarding code >>> points for transport of other protocols and ask the WG to consider those >>> comments in the process of developing this draft. >> >> I note that you have called consensus to adopt draft-farinacci- >> lisp-lcaf as a LISP working group document. This document describes >> its use for L2VPN. Could you please explain where this is covered >> in the current LISP working group charter. >> >> Yakov. > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp >
- [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-… Terry Manderson
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Damien Saucez
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Florin Coras
- Re: [lisp] [MARKETING] Call for adoption of draft… Gregg Schudel
- Re: [lisp] [MARKETING] Call for adoption of draft… Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] [MARKETING] Call for adoption of draft… Vince Fuller
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Michael Hoefling
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Job Snijders
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Michael Kowal (mikowal)
- Re: [lisp] [MARKETING] Call for adoption of draft… Fabio Maino
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… John G. Scudder
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Noel Chiappa
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Terry Manderson
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Noel Chiappa
- Re: [lisp] [MARKETING] Call for adoption of draft… Victor Moreno (vimoreno)
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Terry Manderson
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Terry Manderson
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Ross Callon
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Joel M. Halpern