Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10
Yakov Rekhter <yakov@juniper.net> Mon, 20 August 2012 13:50 UTC
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Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 06:47:28 -0700
From: Yakov Rekhter <yakov@juniper.net>
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Subject: Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10
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Terry, > John, > > The draft is a LISP control message data format document, it is not > specifying the precise behaviors of l2/l3vpn over LISP. It enables those > workgroups to have or work on solutions (should they so choose) that can be > transported by LISP. There is no mandatory statements here to say they must. > Just as the document describes a geo location (s4.4) LISP is the common > denominator here. I do not see any value in splitting this one document into > numerous different documents housed in many different workgroups. Specifying encoding/format without specifying semantics is not going to produce multi-vendor interoperable implementations. Moreover, doing this would allow a vendor to label their solution as "based on IETF standards", effectively creating an end run to the IETF process. Given that, the WG should not accept the draft, as it defines a whole bunch of code points without any companion document that defines semantics of these code points. Yakov.
- [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-… Terry Manderson
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Damien Saucez
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Florin Coras
- Re: [lisp] [MARKETING] Call for adoption of draft… Gregg Schudel
- Re: [lisp] [MARKETING] Call for adoption of draft… Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] [MARKETING] Call for adoption of draft… Vince Fuller
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Michael Hoefling
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Job Snijders
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Michael Kowal (mikowal)
- Re: [lisp] [MARKETING] Call for adoption of draft… Fabio Maino
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… John G. Scudder
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Noel Chiappa
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Terry Manderson
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Noel Chiappa
- Re: [lisp] [MARKETING] Call for adoption of draft… Victor Moreno (vimoreno)
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Terry Manderson
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Terry Manderson
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Ross Callon
- Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-l… Joel M. Halpern