Re: [lisp] Restarting last call on LISP threats

Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com> Thu, 15 May 2014 19:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: [lisp] Restarting last call on LISP threats
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> 
> Don't you always have to trust the mapping system? 

Yes. 

> Did you mean to say, "If you want to trust the originator of the gleaned information, ...." ?

Yes. But what I wrote was not incorrect. If the gleaned information comes from an xTR from the site, you are not trusting the mapping system at this point. 

Dino