Re: [lp-wan] overview draft with some text...
Alper Yegin <alper.yegin@actility.com> Sun, 30 October 2016 20:50 UTC
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From: Alper Yegin <alper.yegin@actility.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 22:50:26 +0200
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Subject: Re: [lp-wan] overview draft with some text...
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Hello Juan Carlos and Stephen, On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 1:44 AM, Juan Carlos Zuniga < juancarlos.zuniga@sigfox.com> wrote: > Hi Stephen, > > Thanks for posting the draft! > > I noticed that the goal of supporting common IP services on these LPWAN > technologies is mentioned in the abstract and in the intro. However, the > document focuses on differences and gaps and does not say much about common > goals. Perhaps we should also add some text about the shared goals for all > LPWAN technologies, which according to the charter would include the > definition of common 1) management features, 2) security features, and 3) > application profiles. > > Supporting IP over LPWANs is clear. But when it comes to tackling these other aspects (1..3 above), we need some more discussion to have concrete ideas, because: - They can mean different things to different people, - A gap in IETF's mind may not be a gap in the other organization's mind. If we want to increase the chances of IETF specs getting adopted, we need to make sure there is a common view between the IETF and the other organizations. There are some differences however, e.g., the Narrowband IoT specifications Section 4.2 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-farrell-lpwan-overview-01#section-4.2> also aim for increased indoor coverage. Indoor coverage is not only aimed by the NB-IoT. It also applies to LoRaWAN, and maybe even others as well. Alper > Also, I've recently posted a revision of the sigfox draft to update some > figures that were mentioned in July. Since we are saying "as of today" in > section 4.3.1 of draft-farrell-lpwan-overview-01, could you please update > the second paragraph with the figures in: https://tools.ietf.org/html/ > draft-zuniga-lpwan-sigfox-system-description-01#section-7 > > Thanks, > > Juan Carlos > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: lp-wan [mailto:lp-wan-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stephen > Farrell > > Sent: October 29, 2016 1:57 AM > > To: lp-wan@ietf.org > > Subject: [lp-wan] overview draft with some text... > > > > > > Hiya, > > > > I've incorporated descriptive text about some of the "input" > technologies for > > lpwan in -01 of the overview draft. [1] That includes text from a lora > draft > > that Alper and I also posted recently [2] and from the existing sigfox > and nb- > > iot drafts. Next up will be adding text from the gap analysis work in the > > places indicated. I hope to post that before the cutoff. We may also get > text > > on WI-SUN by then too. > > > > Comments on any inaccuracies or omissions in [1] are of course very > > welcome. There's a github repo [3] if anyone prefers that. (Though my > github > > foo is modest so bear with me if taking that approach:-) I'll make sure > that > > any substantive discussion initiated on github is reflected to the list. > > > > Cheers, > > S. > > > > [1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-farrell-lpwan-overview-01 > > [2] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-farrell-lpwan-lora-overview-01 > > [3] https://github.com/sftcd/lpwan-ov > > > > _______________________________________________ > lp-wan mailing list > lp-wan@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lp-wan >
- [lp-wan] overview draft with some text... Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lp-wan] overview draft with some text... Jiazi Yi
- Re: [lp-wan] overview draft with some text... Juan Carlos Zuniga
- Re: [lp-wan] overview draft with some text... Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lp-wan] overview draft with some text... Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lp-wan] overview draft with some text... Juan Carlos Zuniga
- Re: [lp-wan] overview draft with some text... Alper Yegin
- Re: [lp-wan] overview draft with some text... Jiazi Yi
- Re: [lp-wan] overview draft with some text... Juan Carlos Zuniga
- Re: [lp-wan] overview draft with some text... Juan Carlos Zuniga
- Re: [lp-wan] overview draft with some text... Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lp-wan] overview draft with some text... Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lp-wan] overview draft with some text... Jiazi Yi