Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call for "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks" - draft-bonica-lsr-ip-flexalgo-01

Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> Fri, 11 December 2020 09:16 UTC

Return-Path: <robert@raszuk.net>
X-Original-To: lsr@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: lsr@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA0F3A03FB for <lsr@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Dec 2020 01:16:13 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.098
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=raszuk.net
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2aawZSkpcUGB for <lsr@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Dec 2020 01:16:11 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-lf1-x132.google.com (mail-lf1-x132.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D524F3A03FA for <lsr@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Dec 2020 01:16:10 -0800 (PST)
Received: by mail-lf1-x132.google.com with SMTP id h19so12338222lfc.12 for <lsr@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Dec 2020 01:16:10 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=raszuk.net; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=EjRMx5i8HEeK4mqoZhTsyhuQxoqSeCxbz4rnWRzR38M=; b=ZAwo7OJ0dXgHrFr9g0MJOApNa+TFQ1wvcbADaXGgo7fN1Jeg1RCQWEBJlBhlqJR+yR jeNGzh/Cp9uSB0O44kfy/lQwU44ewgiFAhs7wyatR0ULV5P+OmK7vz6+9GhUs+8JmnVi QAxfz7XM81BMlVNd4abemgSV0MCzMniu3jZHmqsw+AD5Z+cPborMDWjHMMPvrt5r1uJQ yyp4uxHX9R+I9KN1S3KpEkwWTGY7RiBeS0ou7mIsnSdLF5Ulge8n/SEm/dwYo6er5OOV BxYKt16PhVz9YigNzPCA7dsvVSEq9yLALJEw6rshEnnsV2EDK52PMQC3/5HNnMw/TCf8 5xBw==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=EjRMx5i8HEeK4mqoZhTsyhuQxoqSeCxbz4rnWRzR38M=; b=uVx2ie6OsHZP7q5Vzak1vu5Bu4+5PQuUOmIe40tCPbDGxA443Fm82km39JWPAm2EpZ rzkjqezmTV1S0Bli2ziCoOOjNDjagJ2zTImPQ7x5TgQoi9lMn5NUp1KWpcBV34SM8ZGp vKr3hAVnj6yZHKs0r81p4loQUP41nupiPk5x1EhEYUXqhNrwrHUcGpZMZhw8vRszGk9y 9579TgXhnW7paCBxJtQJLpfEThxWOwHzvHP4TLjdJ5N+eNaTkjK6h30DjfAgNGqGU2Cu eGztrSYhroBJ4u+9QWNZ/W7VvDgDg/Gw6t5V1Wva059GQ52zbv/BCpjw2K77GXRqRI2o I61Q==
X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM53178XJWfbq2zokiiQ0SrJ0b2TqwH1VwWtx6s/MoBYu4cAGFLdv0 lAIf9rpZLTtuSw3miPlLpTCn5IyumKtDAbqRawhjAw==
X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw/Z4NdHatGiDlSZk4TkFml0ZlyikoIRofVn9FDwDfBZ1mbwY2mH/ZKTo0/8Y7WQ313QgBj20lDDYiOsBw5sK0=
X-Received: by 2002:ac2:4147:: with SMTP id c7mr4119851lfi.396.1607678168768; Fri, 11 Dec 2020 01:16:08 -0800 (PST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <777B2AC4-CACF-4AB0-BFC7-B0CFFA881EEB@cisco.com> <169b063524dc4420b37016d2428fc85c@huawei.com> <29d3d16a-237d-e657-e84c-c74a1e5a841f@cisco.com> <c779c9da19264b718effd3d0442c8616@huawei.com> <8024148b-df7d-d79f-26b6-c64b9113cd9e@cisco.com> <64d017200b9f449fb5866729c71af221@huawei.com> <ee59964d-1e9d-233a-254e-37f6141a9add@cisco.com> <db0277d7891a45d6917e84a219b880a3@huawei.com> <c4d73cb1-8262-ee4e-5a7c-6a960b312b9f@cisco.com> <0d0797da3c8648d0bb3fcf7dcb9b8034@huawei.com>
In-Reply-To: <0d0797da3c8648d0bb3fcf7dcb9b8034@huawei.com>
From: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 10:15:57 +0100
Message-ID: <CAOj+MMEiO=-Ac=CK1=nk1CqJPTzdVTb16RGKSzOpGLRpvs12og@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Dongjie (Jimmy)" <jie.dong@huawei.com>
Cc: Peter Psenak <ppsenak@cisco.com>, "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, lsr <lsr@ietf.org>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000029bb9b05b62cbe58"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lsr/Lqn_puRBhgSsojZw_PgNsyMwQjE>
Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call for "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks" - draft-bonica-lsr-ip-flexalgo-01
X-BeenThere: lsr@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Link State Routing Working Group <lsr.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/lsr>, <mailto:lsr-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/lsr/>
List-Post: <mailto:lsr@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:lsr-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsr>, <mailto:lsr-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 09:16:13 -0000

Hi Jie,


> But if node A sends SRv6 packets with node C's SRv6 SID in FA 128 as the
> destination address, when the packet arrives at E, it will be dropped,
> because node E does not have the forwarding entry for C's SRv6 SID in FA
> 128.


* How can E be on the SRv6 SID list if it did not advertise SRv6
participation in the first place ?

* What do you mean by "SRv6 SID in FA 128" ? Aren't SIDs global and not per
FA ?

Btw this is good discussion but how is this related to IP Flex Algo
topic/draft ?

Last - I do share your concern on how topology computation can be data
plane independent. Yes it works for IP Flex Algo when IPv4 and IPv6 are
topologically congruent, but when you add running SR on subset of nodes to
the mix it is no longer the case.

Thx,
R.