Re: [Ltru] Language tags and (localization) processes (Re: draft-davis-t-langtag-ext)
"Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Wed, 13 July 2011 06:31 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Ltru] Language tags and (localization) processes (Re: draft-davis-t-langtag-ext)
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Hello Felix, (I have removed ietf-languages@ietf.org, to avoid cross-postings.) On 2011/07/12 16:23, Felix Sasaki wrote: > The current draft states > > "Language tags, as defined by > [BCP47<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-davis-t-langtag-ext-02#ref-BCP47>], > are useful for identifying the > > language of content. There are mechanisms for specifying variant > subtags for special purposes. However, these variants are > insufficient for specifying text transformations, including content > > that has been transliterated, transcribed, or translated." > > I am requesting a clarification from the editors, that includes a liaison > with the Unicode ULI TC http://uli.unicode.org/ , and a clarification in the > draft. The IETF has liaisons, but not for a sentence or two in a single draft. The IETF is open, so I suggest that you invite whoever is interested from whoever organization to comment here. > Language tags so far have described *states*: an object is in a language, a > script etc. The proposed extension extends languages to describe the outcome > of a *process*: objects have been transformed, with a source object as the > basis for this process. According to the paragraph above, this > transformation includes also translation. I think you have a good point: The above description should be changed to speak about the result of the transformation, not the process itself. > So far formats like TBX, XLIFF or others have been used for aligning source > and target contents. These formats also use language tags, via xml:lang. > However, the transformation, i.e. the process information, is not expressed > via the language tag, but via XML structures (pairs of source and target > elements). That's probably the best for these kinds of formats and their applications. > The language tags are purely for identifying the state of an > object. Yes, and some wording changes can make this clear. Regards, Martin.
- [Ltru] Language tags and (localization) processes… Felix Sasaki
- [Ltru] Language tags and (localization) processes… CE Whitehead
- Re: [Ltru] Language tags and (localization) proce… CE Whitehead
- Re: [Ltru] Language tags and (localization) proce… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Ltru] Language tags and (localization) proce… Felix Sasaki
- Re: [Ltru] Language tags and (localization) proce… Mark Davis ☕
- Re: [Ltru] Language tags and (localization) proce… Mark Davis ☕
- Re: [Ltru] Language tags and (localization) proce… Felix Sasaki
- Re: [Ltru] Language tags and (localization) proce… Mark Davis ☕
- Re: [Ltru] Language tags and (localization) proce… John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Language tags and (localization) proce… CE Whitehead