[Ltru] Re: Swiss German and Alsatian

Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> Tue, 27 November 2007 21:17 UTC

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From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
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Subject: [Ltru] Re: Swiss German and Alsatian
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On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 09:46:57PM +0100,
 Nicolas Krebs <nicolas1.krebs3@netcourrier.com> wrote 
 a message of 26 lines which said:

> There is no detail in 
> http://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry

No, the registry is not an encyclopedia, there are never details.

> http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_list.php
> http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=gsw

This is something you should report to LOC and SIL.

> http://www.langtag.net/registries/lsr-language.txt
> http://www.langtag.net/registries/registry-html/language/gsw.html

The files in www.langtag.net/registries are automatically produced
from the registry so they cannot contain more information.

> if Alsatian is included in gsw (Swiss German, Schwyzerd├╝tsch), 

Well, while I'm of alsatian descent, I'm not an authority on it but I
would vote for inclusion in alemanic (alsatian is just a
dialect). That's also the opinion of Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alsatian_language (the "en" version does
not include the ISO code)

Which means that you can ask ietf-languages to register variant
"alsatian" with prefix "gsw" :-) Or a comment but my personal opinion
is that a variant reflects more the reality of alsatian.

> If yes, please add Alsatian in the official registry, 

The regular procedure is described here and alsatian is mentioned as
an example :-)


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