Re: [mif] draft-ietf-mif-current-practices-00

Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com> Tue, 06 April 2010 17:06 UTC

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From: Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com>
To: Hui Deng <denghui02@gmail.com>, Dan Wing <dwing@cisco.com>, Gabriel Montenegro <gmonte@microsoft.com>
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Hui is correct, Windows has per-interface DNS server lists configured.

It then uses a host-wide "effective" server list for an actual query,
where the effective server list may be different for different names.

On Windows the per-interface suffix is actually termed the
"connection-specific DNS suffix" to distinguish it from the
"primary DNS suffix" of the machine.  I think that's why
"interface-specific" was repeated in the first bullet.

Example on Windows, extracted from "ipconfig /all" output:

Windows IP Configuration

   Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : dthaler-win7
   Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : ntdev.corp.microsoft.com
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
   IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
   WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
   DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ntdev.corp.microsoft.com
                                       redmond.corp.microsoft.com
                                       ntdev.microsoft.com
                                       dns.corp.microsoft.com
   System Quarantine State . . . . . : Not Restricted

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : hsd1.wa.comcast.net.
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-E0-34-4F-6F
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
   Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::4853:4753:9d8d:3b45%13(Preferred)
   IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.195(Preferred)
   Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
   Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, April 05, 2010 10:19:02 PM
   Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:19:02 PM
   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
   DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
   DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 335551968
   DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-12-0C-E2-7A-00-1E-37-CC-8D-DD

   DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:df8:0:1::25
                                       192.168.0.1
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

-Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hui Deng [mailto:denghui02@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:40 PM
> To: Dan Wing; Gabriel Montenegro; Dave Thaler
> Cc: mif@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [mif] draft-ietf-mif-current-practices-00
> 
> DNS server always has specific interface related information,
> but the final DNS server will still be host based, I wouldn't say it
> is not correct.
> 
> one example would be you have internet connection and vpn connection
> at the same time,
> good VPN implementation will always rely on VPN DNS server information
> for Internet connection.
> 
> -Hui
> 
> 2010/3/31 Dan Wing <dwing@cisco.com>:
> > Section 3.2.1.3 of describes the DNS configuration of Windows, and
> says:
> >
> >  "Interface specific DNS configuration can be input via static
> >   configuration or via DHCP.  It includes:
> >
> >   o  An interface-specific suffix list.
> >
> >   o  A list of DNS server IP addresses."
> >
> > It is curious that the first bullet repeats "interface specific", but
> the
> > second bullet does not repeat it.  A reasonable interpretation is
> that the
> > second bullet is not interface-specific, but the lead-in sentence
> says this is
> > interface-specific.  I was hoping draft-montenegro-mif-multihoming-00
> would
> > clarify, but it doesn't.
> >
> > -d
> >
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