Re: [Mipshop] Proposed new charter

[Frank Xia <[e-mail]>]

Hi Vijay

Please see my reply..

BR
Frank
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vijay Devarapalli" <[e-mail]>
To: "Frank Xia" <[e-mail]>
Cc: "'Mipshop'" <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Mipshop] Proposed new charter


> Frank Xia wrote:
> > Hi Vijay
> > 
> > For Tunnel Optimization, why should we limit in Mobile IPv6 and HMIP6?
> 
> It wasn't meant to be an exhaustive list of protocols that
> tunnel.
Frank=>IMO, it is a little bit ambiguous.  For example,
why is HMIP6 is highlighted? why isn't  FMIP6 highlighted?
 It will be helpful if you make it clearer.

> 
> > I think it is also possible for PMIPv6 and Mobile IPv4.
> 
> We have not taken on any work related to Mobile IPv4 so far.
> 
> Vijay
> 
> >  
> > BR
> > Frank
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Vijay Devarapalli" <[e-mail]>
> > To: "'Mipshop'" <[e-mail]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 5:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Mipshop] Proposed new charter
> > 
> > 
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> The MEXT working group has asked to take on some additional work.
> >> This is about a mechanism to reduce the tunneling overhead due to
> >> MIPv6 and HMIPv6. So we modified the charter to include this work
> >> too. Here is the revised charter. Please review.
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Mobility for IP: Performance, Signaling and Handoff Optimization (MIPSHOP)
> >>
> >> Description of Working Group:
> >>
> >> Mobile IPv6 enables IPv6 mobile nodes to continue using a given
> >> "home address" in spite of changes in its point of attachment to
> >> the network.  These changes may cause delay, packet loss, and also
> >> represent overhead traffic on the network.  The MIPSHOP WG has so
> >> far worked on two technologies to address these issues.
> >> Hierarchical Mobile IPv6 (HMIPv6) reduces the amount and latency
> >> of signaling between a MN, its Home Agent and one or more
> >> correspondent nodes.  Fast Handovers for Mobile IPv6 (FMIPv6)
> >> reduces packet loss by providing fast IP connectivity as soon as
> >> the mobile node establishes a new point of attachment at a new
> >> link.
> >>
> >> The MIPSHOP WG will continue to work on HMIPv6 and FMIPv6, and
> >> the necessary extensions to improve these protocols.  The MIPSHOP
> >> WG will also identify missing components that are required for
> >> deploying these protocols and standardize the necessary extensions.
> >> The WG will also address interworking of these protocols with other
> >> mobility management protocols in the IETF, including network-based
> >> mobility management protocols.
> >>
> >> The IEEE 802.21 Media Independent Handoff (MIH) working group aims
> >> at providing services to assist with handoffs between heterogeneous
> >> link-layer technologies, and across IP subnet boundaries.  MIH
> >> services can be delivered through link-layer specific solutions
> >> and/or through a "layer 3 or above" protocol.  MIPSHOP will define
> >> the delivery of information for MIH services for this latter case.
> >> A L3 based mechanism to identify a valid information server is also
> >> required.  The MIPSHOP will work on developing a protocol for
> >> transport of MIH services information and mechanisms for discovering
> >> the MIH server. Security for the transport of MIH information will
> >> also be addressed.
> >>
> >> The widespread use of different forms of IP tunneling mechanisms
> >> in mobile environment, e.g., MIPv6, HMIPv6, has a negative impact
> >> on the protocol efficiency which is translated in the data packet
> >> size, bandwidth usage and battery power consumption. Therefore, a
> >> mechanism which enables reducing the tunneling overhead would
> >> benefit the mobile node and optimize the bandwidth usage. The
> >> MIPSHOP WG will standardize such a mechanism.
> >>
> >> The MOBOPTS Research Group in the IRTF is chartered to work on
> >> optimizations related to Mobile IPv6 and IP handoffs among other
> >> things.  The MIPSHOP WG will take mature proposals from the MOBOPTS
> >> group and standardize them in the IETF on a case-by-case basis.
> >>
> >> The MIPSHOP WG will also consider and standardize optimizations for
> >> the Mobile IPv6 protocol and IP mobility in general.
> >>
> >> Scope of MIPSHOP:
> >>
> >> The working group will:
> >>
> >> 1. Complete the current set of documents with the IESG
> >>     - HMIPv6 (draft-ietf-mipshop-4140bis)
> >>     - FMIPv6 (draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-rfc4068bis)
> >>     - FMIPv6 over IEEE 802.16e (draft-ietf-mipshop-fh80216e)
> >>     - FMIPv6 over 3G CDMA 2000 (draft-ietf-mipshop-3gfh)
> >>     - MIH problem statement (draft-ietf-mipshop-mis-ps)
> >>
> >> 2. FMIPv6 Mobile Node - Access Router security using the AAA
> >>     infrastructure
> >>
> >>     Currently MIPSHOP has produced a standards track protocol for
> >>     setting up security between the mobile node and access router
> >>     for security FMIPv6 signaling messages. However, the protocol
> >>     depends on SeND (Secure Neighbor Discovery) to be available on
> >>     the mobile node and the access router.  An alternate mechanism
> >>     that leverages the AAA infrastructure is required.  Many target
> >>     systems where FMIPv6 is likely to be used use a AAA
> >>     infrastructure to authenticate and authorize network access.
> >>
> >> 3. Prefix Management for point-to-point links
> >>
> >>     Using FMIPv6 over point-to-points like requires some additional
> >>     considerations with respect to managing and allocating prefixes
> >>     for the mobile node on these point-to-point links.  Therefore
> >>     the WG will work on a BCP to document these considerations.
> >>
> >> 4. Use of FMIPv6 with Proxy Mobile IPv6
> >>
> >>     Proxy Mobile IPv6 (PMIPv6) is a network-based mobility
> >>     management protocol where a node in the access network, called
> >>     the Mobile Access Gateway (MAG) handles mobility on behalf of
> >>     the mobile node.  It has been proposed to use FMIPv6 to
> >>     optimize the handover in terms of reducing the packet loss and
> >>     transferring relevant context from the old MAG to the new MAG.
> >>     The working group will work on specifying FMIPv6 extensions to
> >>     enable fast handovers for PMIPv6.
> >>
> >> 5. Work on protocols and extensions for transporting information
> >>     related to IEEE 802.21:
> >>
> >>     The work includes the layer 3 protocol for transporting MIH
> >>     related information and DHCP and DNS extensions for discovery
> >>     the information servers.
> >>
> >> 6. IP Tunneling Optimization
> >>
> >>     Work on a mechanism to reduce the tunneling overhead associated
> >>     with protocols like Mobile IPv6 and HMIPv6.
> >>
> >> 7. Standardize mature proposals from the MOBOPTS IRTF Group
> >>
> >>
> >> Goals and Milestones:
> >>
> >> Done     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-hmip-xx.txt
> >> Done     Working Group Last Call on 
> >> draft-ietf-mipshop-lmm-requirements-XX.txt
> >> Done     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-xx.txt
> >> Done     Discuss Last Call comments and security analyses at IETF 58
> >> Done     Submit draft draft-ietf-mipshop-lmm-requirements-XX.txt to IESG 
> >> for publication as Informational
> >> Done     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-xx.txt to IESG for publication 
> >> as Experimental
> >> Done     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-hmip-xx.txt to IESG for publication 
> >> as Experimental
> >> Done     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-80211fh-xx.txt 
> >> for Informational
> >> Done     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-80211fh-xx.txt to IESG for 
> >> publication as Informational
> >> Done     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-cga-cba-XX.txt
> >> Done     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-mis-ps
> >> Done     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-cga-cba to the IESG for publication 
> >> as Proposed Standard
> >> Done     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-rfc4068bis
> >> Done     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-handover-key-send
> >> Done     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-mis-ps to the IESG for publication as 
> >> Informational RFC
> >> Done     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-rfc4041bis
> >> Done     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-3gfh
> >> Done     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-fh80216e
> >> Done     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-rfc4068bis to the IESG for 
> >> publication as Proposed Standard
> >> Done     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-handover-key-send to the IESG for 
> >> publication as Proposed Standard
> >> Done     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-3gfh to IESG for publication as 
> >> Informational RFC
> >> Done     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-fh80216e to IESG for publication as 
> >> Informational RFC
> >> Done     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-mih-support
> >> Apr 2008     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-4140bis to the IESG for 
> >> publication as Proposed Standard
> >> Apr 2008     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-mih-support to the IESG for 
> >> publication as Proposed Standard
> >> May 2008     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-mos-dns-discovery
> >> May 2008     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-mos-dhcp-options
> >> Jun 2008     Working group last call on draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-ptp
> >> Jun 2008     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-mos-dns-discovery to the IESG for 
> >> publication as Proposed Standard
> >> Jun 2008     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-mos-dhcp-options to the IESG for 
> >> publication as Proposed Standard
> >> Jul 2008     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-pfmipv6
> >> Jul 2008     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-ptp to the IESG for 
> >> publication as Best Current Practice
> >> Aug 2008     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-pfmipv6 to the IESG for 
> >> publication as Proposed Standard
> >> Aug 2008     Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-aaa-key
> >> Oct 2008     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-aaa-key to the IESG for 
> >> publication as Proposed Standard
> >> Nov 2008     Working Group Last call on 
> >> draft-ietf-mipshop-tunneling-optimization
> >> Jan 2009     Submit draft-ietf-mipshop-tunneling-optimization to the the 
> >> IESG
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Vijay
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